The Official TS Workout & Nutrition Thread
#2052
04-15-2012, 01:57 PM
tbh i find that the best way to find out how this works is to EXPERIMENT yourself 
i don't pay attention to the serving portions and grams and all that for my intake because i can sensibly 'judge' it by how i am feeling + knowing how hard/easy i pushed myself at the gym. of course i read for and watch vids of the pros and the specialists for the general info but the implementation is judged in my kitchen
wow it would be great to learn of how he is reporting extra strength. perhaps he's introducing nuts, some dairy, red meat into the diet to compensate for calories and up the boost with good fats. i did think about doing that but, at my current 86-87kg i cannot afford to as i wish to lose another 7kg (already 5kg down
) before rethinking the whole regiment
as for balance, i find that the best balance is maintained by having "food fads", which usually take 3-5 days of experimentation with what to spice the food with as to enjoy it and then i am good to go for 4 weeks. things start to get bland by then and i try to find another big thing.
it was pesto for me when my bro started using it for his food & pasta, then lemon squeeze for my chicken, and now it's cinnamon! the whole thing is working great and i am getting good, steady results
may i just remind you that a no-wheat, limited-carb-overall diet will yield great results esp in the mirror and to touch when you run your hand over your mid section; BUT i would suggest that you FORCE some wheat/flour/direct carb (even simple! white rice + sugars) into your diet once every 3-4 days just to make sure that the body is not squeezing out the water out of the cells and under the skin; but actually getting busy at hitting that glycogen and fat reserve
psychologically for me i expect the scale to always go down, but now i LOVE seeing my weight go up when i WANT it to and by exactly how MUCH i want it/expect it
please share current stats and post up results as time goes by! we need all the motivation from the fellas
i don't pay attention to the serving portions and grams and all that for my intake because i can sensibly 'judge' it by how i am feeling + knowing how hard/easy i pushed myself at the gym. of course i read for and watch vids of the pros and the specialists for the general info but the implementation is judged in my kitchenwow it would be great to learn of how he is reporting extra strength. perhaps he's introducing nuts, some dairy, red meat into the diet to compensate for calories and up the boost with good fats. i did think about doing that but, at my current 86-87kg i cannot afford to as i wish to lose another 7kg (already 5kg down
) before rethinking the whole regimentas for balance, i find that the best balance is maintained by having "food fads", which usually take 3-5 days of experimentation with what to spice the food with as to enjoy it and then i am good to go for 4 weeks. things start to get bland by then and i try to find another big thing.
it was pesto for me when my bro started using it for his food & pasta, then lemon squeeze for my chicken, and now it's cinnamon! the whole thing is working great and i am getting good, steady results
may i just remind you that a no-wheat, limited-carb-overall diet will yield great results esp in the mirror and to touch when you run your hand over your mid section; BUT i would suggest that you FORCE some wheat/flour/direct carb (even simple! white rice + sugars) into your diet once every 3-4 days just to make sure that the body is not squeezing out the water out of the cells and under the skin; but actually getting busy at hitting that glycogen and fat reserve
psychologically for me i expect the scale to always go down, but now i LOVE seeing my weight go up when i WANT it to and by exactly how MUCH i want it/expect it
please share current stats and post up results as time goes by! we need all the motivation from the fellas
You can actually eat brown and wild rice.
It's not low carb. Maybe I'm not explaining this clearly - you simply remove wheat and dairy, not carbs. Fruits, berries etc all have carbs and natural sugars. Easiest thing to do is google "paleo diet" as what you seem to be thinking I am talking about is definitely not what the diet actually is:
With readily available modern foods, The Paleo Diet mimics the types of foods every single person on the planet ate prior to the Agricultural Revolution (a mere 500 generations ago). These foods (fresh fruits, vegetables, lean meats, and seafood) are high in the beneficial nutrients (soluble fiber, antioxidant vitamins, phytochemicals, omega-3 and monounsaturated fats, and low-glycemic carbohydrates) that promote good health and are low in the foods and nutrients (refined sugars and grains, saturated and trans fats, salt, high-glycemic carbohydrates, and processed foods) that frequently may cause weight gain, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and numerous other health problems. The Paleo Diet encourages dieters to replace dairy and grain products with fresh fruits and vegetables -- foods that are more nutritious than whole grains or dairy products.
#2054
04-15-2012, 02:38 PM
^I try to limit my intake... But some of these extreme diets (like paleo) sound great in theory but in practice are either a) not that practical and b) I question eliminating wheat completely, even though there are a ton of health benefits listed.
Think it's more a case of "everything in moderation", at least that's been my experience.
Think it's more a case of "everything in moderation", at least that's been my experience.
#2056
04-15-2012, 09:40 PM
Hmm interesting, I am familiar with a few people who do this diet (the paleo diet) and have lost zero strength. A guy I do some work with actually has been on it for awhile and said he actually has more energy.
I'd like to find a balance because I do love food of all sorts but am curious about how this works.
I'd like to find a balance because I do love food of all sorts but am curious about how this works.
everybodys body works different,..what works for person x well might get you in trouble quick or vice versa,..
one has to experiment with various things until the right approach has been found imo
and carbs are a real crucial pint there,..
some really need carbs and can`t function at all when deprived,others can be on a ketogenic diet for a long time and be well off...so it`s very difficult to generalize here
sure there are facts and guidelines due to biochemical processes happening in all our bodies but the details on what works best for you has to be found through trial and error
concerning your question,..I don`t think one should go after stuff like no wheat/dairy etc but say focusing on something like limited simple sugars(PWN,morning only),no milk sugars since they lead to water retention under the skin,mostly complex carbs along with veggies etc which then for example automatically leads to a non wheat /dairy diet..
but then again,if you`re not competing or something I think it`s not that bad if you don`t take it all that serious and have the food you`re really craving for every now and then..
we`re out there to enjoy life as an ultimate goal after all
