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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedRob
Um they probably tear down the motor at the end of every race. So say 1000-2000 miles. It still is not great for a street motor.
With good lifters, push rods, valves, springs, shaft mounted rockers, springs, heads, you will not have to worry about valve lash. I would use victory valves, PSI springs, Jesel lifters and shaft mount rockers.
 
Old Jun 18, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I love this thread, great stuff Jon!
 
Old Jun 18, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by olsson99

1. 427 TT. I totally see what you are saying on the race gas. Does it at all matter if I drive mostly in Europe and the octane I would run is mostly 100? I am not to worried about having two tanks with different fuels in them, sure its a hazzle but with enough planning its totally doable, and worth the bragging rights... ;-) (If I understood it correctly that I can run low boost and just keep refueling the pump gas tank?) What is the difference in the ones that produces 2000+ hp. Will they be less reliable or whats the downside of going even more stupid? ;-)

2. SBC. I have had a look at the AS engines and I was actually wondering why they can take 800hp out of a SBC and the option NE gave me was "only" at 650hp. Seems like NE are amazing at what they do, so how come it seems like AS is a better option when it comes to naturally aspired engines? Any thoughts on that one?

3. SBC vs BBC I know that the SBC are smaller and lighter, but if I do decide to go for the 500ci BBC to get the extra hp, whats the downside of going all out and going for the 705 BBC - Fuel Injected with 925 HP with 900 TQ with pump gas? How are they sound wise? will the 705 be much heavier then the 500?
It is much easier to build a SBC race engine that it is to build one for street use. Race engines only see a rpm window, my schools camaro leaves the line at 8k and shifts at 95-9600 rpm. When building a street engine you want a flat power curve throughout the entire rpm range. This is harder to accomplish with such radical engines. Also you have to look at the distances, a drag engine will see maybe 1400ft of run time including burnout as to a street engine that will be driven numerous miles. The question is what do you want, do you want oa big cubic in motor that does not turn the rpm, a forced induction engine. NA engines only have one power adder, that is to turn rpm and increase the piston speed.
 
Old Jun 18, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Hopefully I'm not too late to chime in. As far as bespoke engines go, one of the most impressive new engines I've seen is the Flat-Crank V8 (will sound very exotic) in the new RUF R-GT8. Designed to withstand the punishment of an insurance race (reliable) as well as being well behaved on street conditions. It comes with a full dry-sump. If you want more insane, just rework the compression ratio and throw some low friction twin turbos on it and you will easily be north of 1K horses.

Just a thought.

 
Old Jun 18, 2011 | 10:28 PM
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You could always buy the engine from a wrecked GT3 Cup car...
 
Old Jun 18, 2011 | 10:54 PM
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As a reference point, historic Can Am cars using NA aluminum-block BBC motors (800 to 900 hp/750 to 800 tq) weigh around 1,500 to 1,700 lbs and EASILY spin 18" wide rear slicks (both of them) due to the massive slug of torque at low rpms. IMHO, stuffing a beast like that in a flyweight like this project would render it nearly useless at anything below 100 mph.

Another consideration might be the Supercharged V-8 from RS Performance used in the Caterham Levante.

550hp and weighs almost nothing. Impressive bit of kit.

Check out their website RS Performance
 
Old Jun 19, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Thanks so much for all the input! So many great alternatives!

Here is another thought I ran across, one that I kind of really like! A 5.8 stroker kit for the BMW v10

YouTube - ‪BMW M6 Dinan S3 - V10 5.7L Stroker Motor - 628hp‬‏

Thoughts?

/JON
 
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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Or maybe I just hire this guy to sit in and give me the required sounds...

YouTube - ‪BMW M5 V10 / Dodge Viper V10 / Lambo Gallardo V10 SOUND with my MOUTH‬‏

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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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The only thing about the BMW V10 that has bothered me has been the dull sound. Judging by those videos it seems like Dinan has that covered. Holy shit that tunnel sound is almost like an F1 car. I say knock yourself out Jon!

Btw nice orange GT-R you were driving around in earlier. Caught a glimpse of it a couple of hours ago here in Stockholm.
 

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