GT3RS 4.0 Limited Edition - Official Information Thread!
#803
03-20-2011, 02:42 PM
I think Porsche should go back to offering a basic, stripped car that you can build up from there. Say, a basic Carrera spec engine/suspension/brakes, door cards, standard (non-electric) seats, basic (or no) radio, etc. I'd add the most potent engine/suspension/brakes, sport buckets, A/C, and not much else... The car would be most like a current GT3, but probably around $85K with no frills or nonsense. THEN Porsche will be going the direction I'd like.
Think that's not feasible? That's precisely how they sold 911s in the late '60s to mid '70s.
Think that's not feasible? That's precisely how they sold 911s in the late '60s to mid '70s.
#804
03-20-2011, 02:58 PM
Exactly. And call it the Carrera R . We should mae a TS petiton saying we don't want the Cajun. No one will buy it. Use the expanded Leipzig production facility for a new 928. And then will petion them to ditch the GTS and give us a Boxster Spyder type Carrera. Maybe they'll listen? Notice almost every Porsche owner wants a new 928, and hardly ANY want a Cajun. Sorry for OT.
you up for it? HahahaThe Cajun that's the mini cayenne I'm guessing... SO MANY will buy it... Porsche is surely on track commercially and financially... But poising the purists... A nice idea would be an Exclusive type division, strictly for purists, but not necessarily RS, where people can feel special, order unique cars, without shelling an arm and a leg for it, as described above, the 911 R... And the 928 is making a comeback, as a coupe panamera, probably priced along a bentley GT... And sorry, but I would surely get the bentley in that case, made under the same roof!!!
#805
03-20-2011, 09:51 PM
Well, who knows what they'll do. While your right about Porsche moving slightly more mainstream, they are already far enough upmarket that it doesn't matter. Anyone who thinks the Panamera or Cayenne is just a mainstream luxo-bag piece of overweight junk, they're wrong. While still heavy, the Cayenne has lost a lot of weight, and will only get slimmer. Plus, the Turbo model is about as quick as a C4S! In a book about the Panamera, Porsche states that they have no experience in building big heavy sedans which is fortunate. In the book they state that luxury cars are about getting a nice smooth quite ride with no engine noise to your destination. They say, they beg to differ. Engine noise in the car is a very important part in the Panamera when necessary. Both are as sporty as can be. While the Panamera is still a fat heavy car, I guarantee you that the 971 generation will lose a lot of weight. You're most likely right that the Cajun will sell. I'm sure it will be a very fast and sporty SUV. A new 928 is what we need though. Porsche really needs to build that. If the Panamera Turbo already does under 8:00 at the Nuerburgring, imagine what a new 928 could do.
Back to the GT3 RS 4.0, I just want to say (before all of the hate for too many variants follows after the debut), there aren't too many 911 variants. IMHO, a whole bunch of 911 variants is apart of the 911's character. There is nothing wrong with it. If you think there is something wrong with it, just look to Porsche's 911 past! There have ALWAYS been a large amount of variants of 911s. With the 964 you had:
Carrera 2
Carrera 2 Cabriolet
Carrera 2 Cabriolet "Turbo-Look"
Targa 2
Carrera 4
Carrera 4 30 Jahre 911
Carrera 4 Cabriolet
Carrera 4 RS
Targa 4
Speedster
American Roadster
RS 3.6
RS 3.8
RS America
Turbo 3.3
Turbo 3.6
Turbo 3.3 S
Turbo 3.6 S
Turbo S Flachbau
I'm sure there are a few other, but look at all of those variants! It's just apart of the 911's character to have a bunch of variations.
Back to the GT3 RS 4.0, I just want to say (before all of the hate for too many variants follows after the debut), there aren't too many 911 variants. IMHO, a whole bunch of 911 variants is apart of the 911's character. There is nothing wrong with it. If you think there is something wrong with it, just look to Porsche's 911 past! There have ALWAYS been a large amount of variants of 911s. With the 964 you had:
Carrera 2
Carrera 2 Cabriolet
Carrera 2 Cabriolet "Turbo-Look"
Targa 2
Carrera 4
Carrera 4 30 Jahre 911
Carrera 4 Cabriolet
Carrera 4 RS
Targa 4
Speedster
American Roadster
RS 3.6
RS 3.8
RS America
Turbo 3.3
Turbo 3.6
Turbo 3.3 S
Turbo 3.6 S
Turbo S Flachbau
I'm sure there are a few other, but look at all of those variants! It's just apart of the 911's character to have a bunch of variations.
#806
03-21-2011, 04:55 AM
Half of those 964 variants are very special very limited production cars... Personally I don't mind the number of variants on a 911, I just consider them to be pre-packaged cars... I think it's the ever expanding range of Porsche models that is upsetting so many... The panamera, next the Cajun, a coupe panamera (a cabrio one!!!), the sub-boxster(!!) Porsche stands to have the most comprehensive line of any manufacturer, and that does upset those who consider Porsche = ONLY 911...
#809
03-21-2011, 01:02 PM
If the LE turns out to be a street RSR, with the rumored PDK "S", limited to not more than 500 units, it sure beats the $1,000,000 918 built in 918 units, most likely expensive to service, crazy to insure, and surely not a daily driver... Today's announcement stole the spotlight but I guess it gives us some juice on this thread to keep us going through June 7th
but I guess it gives us some juice on this thread to keep us going through June 7th
#810
03-21-2011, 04:42 PM
If the LE turns out to be a street RSR, with the rumored PDK "S", limited to not more than 500 units, it sure beats the $1,000,000 918 built in 918 units, most likely expensive to service, crazy to insure, and surely not a daily driver... Today's announcement stole the spotlight but I guess it gives us some juice on this thread to keep us going through June 7th
but I guess it gives us some juice on this thread to keep us going through June 7th