GT3RS 4.0 Limited Edition - Official Information Thread!
Dec 20, 2010 | 10:10 AM
#483
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991 could be unveiled in parIs, with 1st delivering around Feb...
Dec 20, 2010 | 10:27 AM
#484
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From: Venice (THE ORIGINAL ONE!)
You can tell!!
It will be already an hard task to obtain an allocation... I am not that fussy to ask about a specific production number too!
It will be already an hard task to obtain an allocation... I am not that fussy to ask about a specific production number too!
Dec 20, 2010 | 10:37 AM
#485
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Dec 20, 2010 | 06:32 PM
#486
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Rs/le
If this thread on Rennteam is true, it may portend similar shinanigans with the GTRS LE. Concerning differences between the GT2RS and GT2 and also, the GT3RS.
Rennteam 2.0 - EN - Forum - - Page1
Re: GT2RS Suspension: Did Preuninger Lie?
MKSGR:
fritz:
Rose joints are ball joints. The English name is derived from a brand name, Rose.
The German equivalent is Unibal, also derived from a brand name.
These two different brand names have now come to be used as generic terms for ball joints in the English- and German-speaking regions respectively.
Unlike the "standard" Carrera versions, the GT models have an Unibal ball joint as a top pivot bearing for the front McPherson strut, so could be loosely described as being "rose-jointed".
The rear control arms do not need any provision for steering, so do not provide for rotation of the wheel carrier through the vertical axis. The bushes at each end of the control arms are therefore not ball joints but cylindrical bushes pivoting on a pin. Whilst the purely street-versions have "elastic" rubber-interleaved bushes to give a greater degree of compliance and comfort, the GT models have more rigid metal bushes to give more precise location at the expense of more noise and harshness.
That is one of those posts which makes very clear to me: I should have studied engineering to understand all this
Haha No worries, perfectly understandable.
The bottom line for any "layperson" is this: the video clearly shows Porsche marketing people emphatically and unequivocally stating that the GT2RS suspension is totally different from GT3RS and that all the rubber is taken out. The marketing book states the same.
As evidenced by Porsche own parts catalog, that is not true (a lie). There are buyers who are familiar with suspension and driving dynamics that consider a solid suspension, one that the rubber is removed, to be key to making a buying decision.
I don't ever like to be lied to and especially not when it is involving the expenditure of US$250,000+.
Rennteam 2.0 - EN - Forum - - Page1
Re: GT2RS Suspension: Did Preuninger Lie?
MKSGR:
fritz:
Rose joints are ball joints. The English name is derived from a brand name, Rose.
The German equivalent is Unibal, also derived from a brand name.
These two different brand names have now come to be used as generic terms for ball joints in the English- and German-speaking regions respectively.
Unlike the "standard" Carrera versions, the GT models have an Unibal ball joint as a top pivot bearing for the front McPherson strut, so could be loosely described as being "rose-jointed".
The rear control arms do not need any provision for steering, so do not provide for rotation of the wheel carrier through the vertical axis. The bushes at each end of the control arms are therefore not ball joints but cylindrical bushes pivoting on a pin. Whilst the purely street-versions have "elastic" rubber-interleaved bushes to give a greater degree of compliance and comfort, the GT models have more rigid metal bushes to give more precise location at the expense of more noise and harshness.
That is one of those posts which makes very clear to me: I should have studied engineering to understand all this
Haha No worries, perfectly understandable.
The bottom line for any "layperson" is this: the video clearly shows Porsche marketing people emphatically and unequivocally stating that the GT2RS suspension is totally different from GT3RS and that all the rubber is taken out. The marketing book states the same.
As evidenced by Porsche own parts catalog, that is not true (a lie). There are buyers who are familiar with suspension and driving dynamics that consider a solid suspension, one that the rubber is removed, to be key to making a buying decision.
I don't ever like to be lied to and especially not when it is involving the expenditure of US$250,000+.
Jan 8, 2011 | 06:26 PM
#490
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Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,658
From: LA
The bottom line for any "layperson" is this: the video clearly shows Porsche marketing people emphatically and unequivocally stating that the GT2RS suspension is totally different from GT3RS and that all the rubber is taken out. The marketing book states the same.
As evidenced by Porsche own parts catalog, that is not true (a lie). There are buyers who are familiar with suspension and driving dynamics that consider a solid suspension, one that the rubber is removed, to be key to making a buying decision.
I don't ever like to be lied to and especially not when it is involving the expenditure of US$250,000+.
As evidenced by Porsche own parts catalog, that is not true (a lie). There are buyers who are familiar with suspension and driving dynamics that consider a solid suspension, one that the rubber is removed, to be key to making a buying decision.
I don't ever like to be lied to and especially not when it is involving the expenditure of US$250,000+.
just checking. NVH at that level - bushings - should not be of concern for the RS models.