Is the 991 (with decent spec) overpriced?
#62
Book price is based upon the cost of the car from factory with no options. So if you spec a car for argument sake costing £75k + £35k options, then the resale value will be £75k minus 2 years worth of depreciation (usually around 15% year 1 and 10% year 2) taking it down to £57k. That's nearly 50% of the £110k original starting price!
ie. the more options you have the bigger % you will lose. And as there is less as standard in the 991, most 991s will depreciate faster than previous models.
If Porsche just bundled the options into a higher base price as standard then depreciation wouldn't be so bad!
ie. the more options you have the bigger % you will lose. And as there is less as standard in the 991, most 991s will depreciate faster than previous models.
If Porsche just bundled the options into a higher base price as standard then depreciation wouldn't be so bad!
Last edited by Alex_997TurboRSC; Sep 15, 2011 at 10:15 AM.
#63
Book price is based upon the cost of the car from factory with no options. So if you spec a car for argument sake costing £75k + £35k options, then the resale value will be £75k minus 2 years worth of depreciation (usually around 15% year 1 and 10% year 2) taking it down to £57k. That's nearly 50% of the £110k original starting price!
ie. the more options you have the bigger % you will lose. And as there is less as standard in the 991, most 991s will depreciate faster than previous models.
If Porsche just bundled the options into a higher base price as standard then depreciation wouldn't be so bad!
ie. the more options you have the bigger % you will lose. And as there is less as standard in the 991, most 991s will depreciate faster than previous models.
If Porsche just bundled the options into a higher base price as standard then depreciation wouldn't be so bad!
The LEAST expensive, CPO (FROM AN AUTHORIZED PORSCHE DEALERSHIP) in the USA- for a 2009 C2S Coupe is $72,991 from Porsche of Houston TX.
Or do you want to continue to compare RETAIL to WHOLESALE? I can do this all day long.
#64
The real queation is who NEEEEEEEDS all of the options!?!? The car still outperforms everything while close to optionless. If you got all the options available on a 997 you would be way above the turbo prices easily. You can spend $100K on a Boxster if you want lol. Things like sport exhause should not be standard as they never were. I sell Porsches and for the past 7 years 95% of the people do not order all the performance goodies anyway. The crazy sport options they offer now are signifcant enough to give you drastic enough changes that you would think you got the next NEXT generation which I think is pretty damn cool.
Consider the 996. When it was released it was signifcantly faster than the 993 but you could only get it one way. Maybe a sport suspension would allow another second off of a lap time. Rumor has it that while the new 991 is an easy 10 seconds faster than the 997.2 you can basically option it ou to a further 10 seconds faster. Those are some serious options!!!
Ask yourselves this, if Techart, Sharkwerks or whoever offered a $25K package that made your 911 10 seconds faster around a track how many of you would jump on it?!
Also if you look at all the standard features of the new car the price of the 997 with these features is only 1% less. The only people that really lose are the ones that wanted a base car with nothing.
And one last point the whole idea of the 911 beaing attainable for those who wanted to make sacrifices has not been true for nealry 20 years. Hyperinflation is to thank for that.
Consider the 996. When it was released it was signifcantly faster than the 993 but you could only get it one way. Maybe a sport suspension would allow another second off of a lap time. Rumor has it that while the new 991 is an easy 10 seconds faster than the 997.2 you can basically option it ou to a further 10 seconds faster. Those are some serious options!!!
Ask yourselves this, if Techart, Sharkwerks or whoever offered a $25K package that made your 911 10 seconds faster around a track how many of you would jump on it?!
Also if you look at all the standard features of the new car the price of the 997 with these features is only 1% less. The only people that really lose are the ones that wanted a base car with nothing.
And one last point the whole idea of the 911 beaing attainable for those who wanted to make sacrifices has not been true for nealry 20 years. Hyperinflation is to thank for that.
#66
Well seems like a bit of misinformation really. The cars are always expensive relative to the times and now they are more expensive. I can tell you I am surprised it took them this long to raise the prices. I mean that from a global economy standpoint. The US has been super lucky with car prices for sooooo long. Looks like ti is slowly cathing up. There is a reason that more new Porsches are going to china and new growing markets. Sucks but such is business.
#69

But seriously, deal with either your country or ours- which do you want? Because in the US- you can't buy a 2009 C2S for 50% of the value from total MSRP.
You can't.
But if you want to deal wholesale to wholesale- we can do that; but you CANNOT compre WHOLESALE figures to RETAIL figures.
That's just complete hot-air.
#70
Patience has always proven to be the rational approach to take with exotics or for that matter anything in today's financial climate. No one needs a 991. The market will determine true value if you allow it time. Unfortunately people will always disrupt the marketplace with greed and need. Two terrible traits that have over time have proven to be a disaster for most consumers.





