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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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'boot' sits lower on the shoulder as you elevate the gun. consequently, the gun sits higher up toward the face, making for less head and neck cranking, better target acquisition, and a shorter time to rounds fired.

the SIG also has a 'boot' buttstock

 
Old Sep 3, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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The SIG is a great gun I had the first one to hit into the states in the S East I declined it as I find the balance very awkward even in the standard set-up it is very front end heavy and not well balanced as well once again proprietary parts issue its like the M1A from Springfield great 7.62 but also you are in the same boat.
 
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The SIG is a great gun I had the first one to hit into the states in the S East I declined it as I find the balance very awkward even in the standard set-up it is very front end heavy and not well balanced as well once again proprietary parts issue its like the M1A from Springfield great 7.62 but also you are in the same boat.
they're rumored to be telepathically accurate, but i agree, very front heavy and somewhat cumbersome vs standard AR carbine


also, has anyone here a Robinson Armament carbine? looks interesting:
XCR-L STANDARD - [ROBARM.COM]
FAL? anyone have this? DSA is a supplier and it looks very appealing. it's a beast, but the recoil and ammo prices may be too much.
how about Steyr Aug? looks menacing, but i already have their pistol (somewhat funky design)

i've researched a few consumer and 'expert' impressions on LMT, LWRC, and Stag Arms and i'm getting closer to a purchase... i've also seen a few youtube videos about the HK MR556A1... overkill maybe?

another stupid question: do all manufacturers make left handed configurations?

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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Robinson is top notch far better then the Colt or Bushies ask Brian that is another level of AR.
 
Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Marc is spot on with his assessment.

Robinson makes a great platform. You couldn't go wrong. The modular approach on that weapon makes for some fun.

I LOVE DS Arms and their FAL's... Just pick one...
 
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I have seen reviews were owners had issues with the Robinson XCR, basically the barrel would loosen up and POI would wander. There were also some cases of the ejector coming loose and causing malfunctions. If I remember right, each of those are held to the receiver with only one hex head bolt, which just seems prone to failure/problems. Robinson's proposed solution was: "Use more loctite."

It’s definitely a cool gun that has lots of potential. But for a "workhorse AR", especially if it's your only one, I would stick to guns that have a more reliable design such as the LWRC, LMT, SCAR, or Sig.
 
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Those were in fact issues from early versions of the Robinson. It has matured over the past year or two.
 
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Smith&Wesson MP15 carbine with MOE magpul original equip in flat dark earth. Basically basic.




It's not a gas-piston, I chickened out in that department, and it's no LMT or LWRC. I'm not sure if I'll be going back to California in a few years so I didn't want to commit to a 2-3K rifle just yet.
 

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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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My brother has that EXACT rifle and loves it.

I have to say, it is a damn nice rifle. You wouldn't go wrong with this one.
 
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Originally Posted by cerberusdoc
I'm not sure if I'll be going back to California in a few years so I didn't want to commit to a 2-3K rifle just yet.
The way things are going, it may not be a problem in the future.
 



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