Looking for workhorse AR 15
Sep 1, 2010 | 05:38 PM
#11
Teamspeed Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 545
From: Houston
Simple reality is that gas piston is easier to maintain, simpler to operate, and in the long run, more reliable. Now again, this is splitting hairs. But it is my preference. This preference comes from military experience where sand seems to be omnipresent. And I spent a lot of my time carrying an AK variant, and it served far more reliably, and it was far easier to maintain.
In the UK, we are not allowed semi auto or a gas cycling system, so the gas piston you are talking about didnt enter my mind.
Absolutely agree with using a gas piston system now
Sep 2, 2010 | 10:13 AM
#12
Teamspeed Senior Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 614
From: Ohio
I should add, that I really like the side charging handle on my Sig 556, and actually prefer the ergonomics over an AR15 variant, all personal preference of course. So if you are like me and wanted to check out a non-AR form factor 5.56mm carbine, I would take a serious look at the FN SCAR 16S. They are available in black now instead of the rainbow FDE colors that were initially released and the prices are finally coming down. Some think the SCAR is ugly, I like the fact that it’s ugly and all business. The SCAR is lighter and balances better than both the Sig 556 and the Bushmaster ACR. I’ve been told there is one in this picture somewhere, but I haven’t been able to find it yet:
Also, 16S’ big brother the SCAR 17S in .308 has finally been released, and it looks pretty badass as well. Talk about the ultimate carbine for wild hog hunting.
Also, 16S’ big brother the SCAR 17S in .308 has finally been released, and it looks pretty badass as well. Talk about the ultimate carbine for wild hog hunting.
Sep 2, 2010 | 11:05 AM
#14
Teamspeed's Mr. Spock
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 6,947
From: Los Angeles
Among AR15 manufacturers, I'm considering DPMS, SW, Colt, Ruger. what do you guys recommend as a reliable workhorse, especially in a carbine configuration?
It will be my first AR and primarily for range use and target practice, and will be in 556. I'm not willing to spend too much because I'm not a huge fan of the AR15, but I'd like something solid that can take some stress (gas piston).
It will be my first AR and primarily for range use and target practice, and will be in 556. I'm not willing to spend too much because I'm not a huge fan of the AR15, but I'd like something solid that can take some stress (gas piston).
Sep 2, 2010 | 08:32 PM
#18
Thread Starter
| the angry giant midget
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,592
went to a local gun shop today. really liked the SCAR, SIG 556, and the FN F2000... as novelties. my favorite was a piston AR carbine that was kitted out with magpul everything. light, well balanced, quick target acquisition. i shot their rental M&P carbine with the iron sights. very tight groups, i was surprised.
the owner talked up the SIG 556 and how he's shot thousands of rounds without one cleaning, not one malfunction. oh really, you've never cleaned out carbon deposits with a bore punch, ever? 'ohh well now, i run a bore snake every once in a while, hee hee.'
what makes the biggest impact in causing misfeeds? i've always thought it was the mag and springs
the owner talked up the SIG 556 and how he's shot thousands of rounds without one cleaning, not one malfunction. oh really, you've never cleaned out carbon deposits with a bore punch, ever? 'ohh well now, i run a bore snake every once in a while, hee hee.'
what makes the biggest impact in causing misfeeds? i've always thought it was the mag and springs
