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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artist
First of all what the hell is Mr Pagani SHILL? haha

And secondly..

Did Pagani claim it was driven on a specific tire during the record?
Or did Top gear state any rules towards what tires you can use?

If the answer is no on both questions..

then just lay off the discussion, as there is no foul play.

Everyone knows that the Top Gear lap times are non scientific.

Different days,different drivers..different setups..
Its not like a super serious 1 day 1 driver event of lap times.
Actually, the Power Lap is only open to road legal/production cars. Although the FXX was a track only car, when they took the FXX time off the leader board, Jeremy Clarkson specially said it was because they found out it was on slicks.

None of your arguments make sense...
 
Old Feb 21, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Artist, If you offer those arguments, then why would it be necessary to cut grooves into tires that very clearly began life as racing slicks? Why not just run them as is?

Is the FXX on the Power Lap board? How about the Zonda R? Why not?
 

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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Also, what is Mr. Pagani SHILL?
 
Old Feb 21, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by YTaka
Actually, the Power Lap is only open to road legal/production cars. Although the FXX was a track only car, when they took the FXX time off the leader board, Jeremy Clarkson specially said it was because they found out it was on slicks.

None of your arguments make sense...
I know its open to road legal cars..and Huayra is a road legal car..
and we still do not know if those tires are road legal.
And the rules afaik say nothing about which tires to use.

the Zonda R was also driven on TG it has the fastest time ever..but its on a different board along with the FXX

So i doubt it was due to the tires..more so due to the fact that its a non road legal car..

And btw the huayra was not on slicks..at best those are semi slicks..at best!

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Why they put other tires on it? its easy beacuse they want to be on top.. even though its not scientific..its a dick measuring contest of mega proportions.
Most educated petrol heads know better than to take those times as gospel.. but the rest ( majority) of car interested human beings would care less about the technicality's.
 
Old Feb 21, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artist
And btw the huayra was not on slicks..at best those are semi slicks..at best!
The benefit of a racing tire isn't so much in the tread design, but rather in the structure of the tire itself, and the compound of the tread rubber. Everything about the tire is made to optimize performance. They are designed to wear out in 100 miles or less. Whether there are grooves in them or not is of little consequence to how well they stick.

Ask anyone with serious track experience and they will tell you that race rubber is worth several seconds a lap. Someone with a high level of skill cut grooves into those Pirelli slicks in a deliberate effort either to squeak by road legal tread depth requirements in the UK, and/or to mimic the look of a street legal tire. Ultimately the reason happens to be irrelevant; I assure you those tires made a significant difference in the lap time the Huayra was able to run.

And the purpose of that would be...

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... beacuse they want to be on top..
Couldn't have said it better myself.

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..its a dick measuring contest of mega proportions.
Most educated petrol heads know better than to take those times as gospel.. but the rest ( majority) of car interested human beings would care less about the technicality's.
Perhaps yes, but given Top Gear's reach and exposure, surely having the Huayra sitting atop the Power Lap board has more than a little value to Pagani. The very creation of this thread was in fact to make a big deal about the time the Huayra was able to run. I'm sure nobody cares.

Spoiler alert, indeed.
 

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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artist
I know its open to road legal cars..and Huayra is a road legal car..
and we still do not know if those tires are road legal.
And the rules afaik say nothing about which tires to use.

the Zonda R was also driven on TG it has the fastest time ever..but its on a different board along with the FXX

So i doubt it was due to the tires..more so due to the fact that its a non road legal car..

And btw the huayra was not on slicks..at best those are semi slicks..at best!

PS
Why they put other tires on it? its easy beacuse they want to be on top.. even though its not scientific..its a dick measuring contest of mega proportions.
Most educated petrol heads know better than to take those times as gospel.. but the rest ( majority) of car interested human beings would care less about the technicality's.
Road legal means it wears road legal tires. It is illegal to drive any car on the road without dot approved tires. So your argument is flawed. Especially since Jeremy Clarkson said slicks are not allowed!


You assume they're semi slicks. But Mattjs points out the wear bar distinction which means they're not semi-slicks. They would be hand cut slicks. Pirelli hand cuts slicks. It's on their website.

So your last paragraph is saying you're ok with Pagani cheating? That's just dumb.
 
Old Feb 21, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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^Show me where those specific tires are NOT road legal in UK...( where it was tested) and ile admit that they cheated.

Alternatively show me where TG says anything about what kind of tires are allowed.

Until then..this discussion is not about cheating or foul play..

Its more about discussing the why and ifs of the tires and the test.
 
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Hi,

Just popped in to remind you blokes that it's a TV show.

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^This
 
Old Feb 21, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artist
Alternatively show me where TG says anything about what kind of tires are allowed.
s13e02.

Jeremy about the FXX lap time: "He was doing that on slick tires. Now we have rules on this power board here ok, you cant use slicks so this time is coming off."
 

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