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New SSC supercar to beat Veyron SS... this summer?

Old Jul 11, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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I share one final thought as presented by another

My position remains the same; the SSC is certainly a hand built as well as limited production specialty vehicle however they are far from a kit car.

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"Kit cars have been around from the earliest days of the automobile. In 1896 the Englishman Thomas Hyler White developed a design for a car that could be assembled at home and technical designs were published in a magazine called The English Mechanic. In the United States the Lad's Car of 1912 could be bought for US$160 ($3000 equivalent in 2006) fully assembled or US$140 ($2600 in 2006) in kit form.


It was not until the 1950s that the idea really took off. Car production had increased considerably and with rust proofing in its infancy many older vehicles were being sent to breaker yards as their bodywork was beyond economic repair. An industry grew up supplying new bodies and chassis to take the components from these cars and convert them into new vehicles, particularly into sports cars. Fiber reinforced plastic (aka "GRP," or "fiberglass") was coming into general usage and made limited-scale production of automobile body components much more economical. Also, in the UK up to the mid 1970s, kit cars were sometimes normal production vehicles that were partially assembled as this avoided the imposition of purchase tax as the kits were assessed as components and not vehicles. The Lotus Elan, for example, was available in this form. It was often claimed that the kits could be taken home and completed in only a weekend.


During the 1970s many kits had bodies styled as sports cars that were designed to bolt directly to VW Beetle chassis. This was popular as the old body could be easily separated from the chassis leaving virtually all mechanical components attached to the chassis and a GRP-body from the kit supplier shop fitted. This made the Beetle one of the most popular "donor" vehicles of all time. Examples of this conversion include the Bradley GT, Sterling, and Sebring which were made by the thousands and many are still around today. Volkswagen based dune buggies also appeared in relatively large numbers in the 1960s and 1970s based usually on a shortened floor pan.


Current kit cars are often replicas of well-known and expensive classics and are designed so that anyone with a measure of technical skill can build them at home to a standard where they can be driven on the public roads. These replicas are conceptually like the original, but their bodies are often made of fiberglass mats soaked in polyester resin instead of the original sheet metal. The AC Cobra and the Lotus 7 are particularly popular examples, the right to manufacture the Lotus 7 now being owned by Caterham Cars who bought the rights to the car from Lotus founder Colin Chapman in 1973. Replica kit cars enable enthusiasts to possess a vehicle of a type that because of scarcity they may not be able to afford, and at the same time take advantage of modern technology.


Many people react skeptically when they first hear about kit cars as it appears to them to be technically impossible to assemble a car at home and also use it on the public roads. They may also be worried that such a car would not subsequently pass the mandatory quality control (road worthiness test) that is required in most countries. For example, to obtain permission to use a kit car in Germany, every such vehicle with a speed over 6 km/h without a general operating license (ABE) or an EC type permission (EC-TG) has to undergo, as per the § 21 of Road traffic licensing regulations (STVZO), a technical inspection by an officially recognized expert of a Technical Inspection Authority. In the United Kingdom it is necessary to meet the requirements of the IVA (Individual vehicle Approval) regulations.


A survey of nearly 600 kit car owners in the USA, England and Germany, evaluated by the author Dr. Ingo Stüben, showed that typically 100–1500 hours are required to build a kit car, depending upon the model and the completeness of the kit."
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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@silversurfer, how many UA were sold?
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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they sold a dozen, crashed one for testing, and still own the world record car.
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by subgraphic
I really like and respect this car. But man are those blow off valves annoying.
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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^^get behind the wheel before you make that call^^

They are truly intoxicating.
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
^^get behind the wheel before you make that call^^

They are truly intoxicating.
Are you offering me keys?

:Looking at airfare:
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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In all honesty I've never been this car's biggest fan, however Jerrod Shelby's sheer determination to bring his vision into reality is laudable and I respect his achievement. I could say the same thing about the Veyron though; huge respect for the car's performance and craftmanship involved but no emotional connection.

This of course falls in line with all the old 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' etc. cliches so debating it would be rather pointless.

I can't help but wonder about the following though: given the unbelievable amount of dedicated research, testing and honing that has gone into just about every component of the Veyron - the gearbox development alone would bring most car firms to their knees - I find it very hard to believe that a company which has to make do with rather scarce resources by comparison can manufacture a product of equal technological quality.

In other words: your car will do 250 MPH, great, but how can you be sure the gearbox won't fall from the chassis 5 years from now?

Note, this is a genuine question and not intended as mockery of the SSC UA.
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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I'm very interested to hear TommyJames' thought on the Veyron SuperSport he test drove recently in comparison to this car...
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Alzilla
I'm very interested to hear TommyJames' thought on the Veyron SuperSport he test drove recently in comparison to this car...
It wasn't the Super Sport...just a regular Veyron although, I never thought I'd be calling a Veyron a "regular" car.
 

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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by atomic80
It wasn't the Super Sport...just a regular Veyron although, I never thought I'd be calling a Veyron a "regular" car.
Durrrr. I meant GrandSport....
 

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