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Old 05-18-2011 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludas
The MP4 is built to be a car for every day use. For being an allround sportscar it is remarkebly light and quick, no doubt about that. But the GT2rs is built for one single purpose, being quick around the track. Nothing else.You can quote me again if you like, if a car magazine manages to drive the MP4 around the ring in less than 7:30 I will be very impressed.
I'm sure it's every bit as civil and streetable as the MP4. Still has carpet, leather, A/C, radio, etc. If it was only built for the track, it wouldn't need any of that. The 2RS is definitely track-focused but that's not the only thing it was built for.

The GT2RS and MP4-12C are very close in price, power, and performance. I don't see why it'd be such a surprise if the ring times were really close. I'd tip the MP4-12C to surpass the GT2RS on the track because it has the clear technology advantage which it will make very good use of on the track.
 
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Old 05-18-2011 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludas
Hehe you crack me up. Since when is the AIRBRAKE the most important feature of a sportscar?
I never said that it was. I was just pointing to one piece of technology that will help the 12C go faster, that the Porsche lacks. There are many other examples. The GT2 RS may be quick but it's almost all old tech when compared to what McLaren have cooked up here. exRockstar covered several other examples.

Speaking of cooking things up, that nut might taste better with a little time in the oven.

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Old 05-18-2011 | 12:18 PM
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...and btw - the 12C's wing can be raised to assist with downforce in the corners in Track mode, and still functions as the airbrake when required:



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Old 05-18-2011 | 01:13 PM
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These are incredible numbers!!
 
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Old 05-18-2011 | 03:22 PM
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Actually, I'd love to see the day when BS speculation on lap times are a thing of the past. A manufacturer actually has more power to prevent this from happening that most would think.

Sorry. I'm angered by the fact I just got the latest issue of EVO in the mail today, and guess what? No INDEPENDENT lap times or performance numbers for the GT2 RS. Still.
 
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The GT2 RS is somewhere between 1.18-1.24. Different sources post different times as there is a 232 meter shorter way to finish the track.

The GTR is right behind that time.

The ZR1 and Enzo are both ~1.26 cars. I would believe >1.18 on the full non-public setup track.
 
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Did the Mclaren F1 ever go around the Top Gear track? It would be interesting to see the comparison between the F1 and the Mp4/12c
 
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Old 05-18-2011 | 09:46 PM
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While I am sure more than one F1 has gone around Dunsfold, there's never been a time released - official or otherwise.

The same is true of the F1 at the 'Ring. Past speculation has put the road car anywhere between 7:20 and 7:40. Remember the tires are old tech with tall sidewalls, the brakes are unassisted and prone to fade under heavy repeated use, and finally it lacks downforce.

No doubt the 12C could take it around almost any track you could imagine.

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Old 05-18-2011 | 10:40 PM
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It is going to set new benchmarks. Just as the F1 did. And they have more to follow. This is good for sports cars.
 
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Old 05-18-2011 | 10:48 PM
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Had they offered a manual I would be completely in love with the car. It has everything else.

But, as soon as I read no manual option, I am instantly numbed.
 


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