Six Things We Learned at BMW M

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Oct 21, 2011 | 11:23 PM

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When those in charge care more about features than the driving experience we know we won't be getting true driver's cars much longer (though the current crop of M cars are pretty soft as it is).

Oct 22, 2011 | 05:38 AM

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KristofD10

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Originally Posted by Simba

1. The attitude towards the Z4M is hilarious. You can't build one because you turned the car into a bloated POS and the M guys started laughing when they were asked to make something good to drive out of that mess.

2. The attitude towards drivers does not bode well for the future of BMW. Damn those pesky drivers and their desire for manuals. If only we could engineer them out of the equation, we could make the perfect car!

Miss the point much?

I'm AMAZED the 1M made it through that kind of BS.

You're right.

I think that any BMW M should be a drivers car and not for posers. And they should be able to have an manual.

Look at the BMW 1M, it's awesome and it's made for one purpose: fun.
An automatic gear is useful if you're going to drive 50 miles a day, every day.
But I understand why people do want a manual gear in their M3 or M5, it doesn't matter that you are going to be slower, it's all about the fun-factor.

Nov 1, 2011 | 07:53 PM

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Jetpilot718

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I think BMW M division nailed the market with the first two generation M5's. Wolves in sheepish clothing and just completely raw to drive. No manual available for an M-car? I just don't know. I mean, DCT is a nice gadget, no doubt, but it's the same thing that turns me off to the Nissan GTR.

I have a strange feeling that as cars evolve, I'm going to want to keep my current stable more and more. Future seems pretty bleak for upgrades, IMO...