Cup car on the street?
Mar 31, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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AFAIK the Bahraini car does not have the cage, so it started out as a standard 911 body-in-white.
Legislation and beauracracy aside, besides the lights you'll need to add radiator fans to keep from overheating city driving and the fuel filler will need to be modified...unless of course you're planning on storing race fuel at your house with a dry-break filling system.
The rest of it then becomes convenience. Refit the heating and ventilation system? Front axle lift? Sound deadening?
The two things you could probably do without on the Cup car if you're streeting it is the plumbed-in fire suppression system and air-jacking cylinders.
If I were to do this, I'd get one with high hours on the motor and swap in a standard GT3 street motor with bolt-ons and add the radiator fans. That way I can drive to the track, race all day and drive home without having to deal with the cup motor.
EDIT: No VIN # on Cup cars, only serial number (motors have serial # too). Cars are sold on bill-of-sale obviously
Legislation and beauracracy aside, besides the lights you'll need to add radiator fans to keep from overheating city driving and the fuel filler will need to be modified...unless of course you're planning on storing race fuel at your house with a dry-break filling system.
The rest of it then becomes convenience. Refit the heating and ventilation system? Front axle lift? Sound deadening?
The two things you could probably do without on the Cup car if you're streeting it is the plumbed-in fire suppression system and air-jacking cylinders.
If I were to do this, I'd get one with high hours on the motor and swap in a standard GT3 street motor with bolt-ons and add the radiator fans. That way I can drive to the track, race all day and drive home without having to deal with the cup motor.
EDIT: No VIN # on Cup cars, only serial number (motors have serial # too). Cars are sold on bill-of-sale obviously
Mar 31, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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apparently some customers in Asia have ordered cup cars, but specified that parking brakes be fitted.
Porsche Motorsports doesn't usually this for the cars, but if the customer is willing to pay...
why would you need a parking brake?
Porsche Motorsports doesn't usually this for the cars, but if the customer is willing to pay...
why would you need a parking brake?
Mar 31, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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Jokes aside though, thanks Amir for putting some sense into this. Didn't even think of the fuel issue. Could any Porsche dealer service a Cup car, assuming one decides to keep the engine? We have quite a bunch here (apparently!), ex Carrera Cup Scandinavia cars, and I'm curious where they have them serviced.
Mar 31, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Mar 31, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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I need to correct a statement I made in my original post. The Cup Cars do come with a VIN #, but are not in line with any series 911 VINs.
To my knowledge, other than oil changes after every track day, the engine needs a full rebuild at $25K USD. At what point is up to you? I've heard they start falling off in power at 20 hours, but some run them as much as 50 to 60 hours. In the US, Porsche Motorsport handles the rebuilds. I wouldn't go with anyone else.
The laundry list of stuff that needs to be inspected on a regular basis on the Cup Cars is so long, that a Porsche dealer would be in over their head. Unless there is a tech who knows his way around a Cup Car and has been on a race team that works a particular dealership, you're better off finding a reputable race shop (doesn't necessarily have to be affiliated with Porsche) to do the servicing.
Almost forgot, brake pads! Gotta put in less aggressive pads for street driving.
To my knowledge, other than oil changes after every track day, the engine needs a full rebuild at $25K USD. At what point is up to you? I've heard they start falling off in power at 20 hours, but some run them as much as 50 to 60 hours. In the US, Porsche Motorsport handles the rebuilds. I wouldn't go with anyone else.
The laundry list of stuff that needs to be inspected on a regular basis on the Cup Cars is so long, that a Porsche dealer would be in over their head. Unless there is a tech who knows his way around a Cup Car and has been on a race team that works a particular dealership, you're better off finding a reputable race shop (doesn't necessarily have to be affiliated with Porsche) to do the servicing.
Almost forgot, brake pads! Gotta put in less aggressive pads for street driving.
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Mar 31, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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I need to correct a statement I made in my original post. The Cup Cars do come with a VIN #, but are not in line with any series 911 VINs.
To my knowledge, other than oil changes after every track day, the engine needs a full rebuild at $25K USD. At what point is up to you? I've heard they start falling off in power at 20 hours, but some run them as much as 50 to 60 hours. In the US, Porsche Motorsport handles the rebuilds. I wouldn't go with anyone else.
The laundry list of stuff that needs to be inspected on a regular basis on the Cup Cars is so long, that a Porsche dealer would be in over their head. Unless there is a tech who knows his way around a Cup Car and has been on a race team that works a particular dealership, you're better off finding a reputable race shop (doesn't necessarily have to be affiliated with Porsche) to do the servicing.
Almost forgot, brake pads! Gotta put in less aggressive pads for street driving.
To my knowledge, other than oil changes after every track day, the engine needs a full rebuild at $25K USD. At what point is up to you? I've heard they start falling off in power at 20 hours, but some run them as much as 50 to 60 hours. In the US, Porsche Motorsport handles the rebuilds. I wouldn't go with anyone else.
The laundry list of stuff that needs to be inspected on a regular basis on the Cup Cars is so long, that a Porsche dealer would be in over their head. Unless there is a tech who knows his way around a Cup Car and has been on a race team that works a particular dealership, you're better off finding a reputable race shop (doesn't necessarily have to be affiliated with Porsche) to do the servicing.
Almost forgot, brake pads! Gotta put in less aggressive pads for street driving.
You have essentially put me off this idea if they are that high maintenance, the faux RSR GT3 suddenly makes a good amount of sense. Just out of curiosity, what exactly needs to be rebuilt that quickly? I mean shesh, they could barely complete a 24 hour endurance at the Ring.
Mar 31, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Not sure if it's a real Cup, but sure does look like it...
source:
Porsche 997 GT3 CUP - Autogespot
http://www.autogespot.com/nl/viewima...22082007225953
source:
Porsche 997 GT3 CUP - Autogespot
http://www.autogespot.com/nl/viewima...22082007225953
