Official: Ferrari La Ferrari
#161
03-06-2013, 12:05 PM
Have you guys gotten a chance to look at the vehicle dynamics video?
I'm a gear head and follow Motorsport passionately and to have a full-on DDRS system and KERS on a car outside a race track just blows my mind.
I'm a gear head and follow Motorsport passionately and to have a full-on DDRS system and KERS on a car outside a race track just blows my mind.
#162
03-06-2013, 12:09 PM
Oh by the way, too all those cash strapped Hyper car owners, please note that if you buy a P1 you will be able to drive it in central London on electric power only without having to pay the congestion charge!! Therefore saving you a whole £10 per day 
You cant say the same thing about the Ferrari
You cant say the same thing about the Ferrari
#163
03-06-2013, 12:19 PM
I'll take an Agera and 991 GT3, please
#164
03-06-2013, 12:22 PM
Rockstar its not often I agree with you but on this occasion I do.
The problem I have with the Ferrari is that as a design it does not move the game on. If this was a concept produced by an automotive design student I suspect the reaction from even the biggest Ferrari fans would be luke warm. This design could have come from ten years ago.
The McLaren on the other hand seems not to have any historical reference to anything apart from a few design clues from the F1. It’s fresh and so so different. And I know this sounds odd but it just looks plain clever in its execution.
From what we now know the Ferrari seems to have the Mac beat purely based on the numbers. But I suspect this could be overturned once lap times become evident. What do I base this assumption on you may well ask? Well what it all comes down to is one figure in the McLaren press pack, and that is that the P1 will be able to generate 2G in the corners on street tyres. That is an amazing figure for a street car. And as we all know its speed in the corners that ultimately leads to great lap times.
If Ferrari can match this I will be very impressed. I can’t wait to see independently verified lap times in the near future
The problem I have with the Ferrari is that as a design it does not move the game on. If this was a concept produced by an automotive design student I suspect the reaction from even the biggest Ferrari fans would be luke warm. This design could have come from ten years ago.
The McLaren on the other hand seems not to have any historical reference to anything apart from a few design clues from the F1. It’s fresh and so so different. And I know this sounds odd but it just looks plain clever in its execution.
From what we now know the Ferrari seems to have the Mac beat purely based on the numbers. But I suspect this could be overturned once lap times become evident. What do I base this assumption on you may well ask? Well what it all comes down to is one figure in the McLaren press pack, and that is that the P1 will be able to generate 2G in the corners on street tyres. That is an amazing figure for a street car. And as we all know its speed in the corners that ultimately leads to great lap times.
If Ferrari can match this I will be very impressed. I can’t wait to see independently verified lap times in the near future
#165
03-06-2013, 12:24 PM
That is the best photo yet, car looks insane, thanks for posting it Artist.
#166
03-06-2013, 12:36 PM
^i rather have those elements that look good on the car..
Rather than sharing the carbon fibre tub and engine with a lesser model as the P1 does.
On a second thought is the V12 in the Lafer the same engine to begin with as the F12?
Even if it is its still shared with the top car of the ferrari ordinary line up..
And not the starting model..
Imagine Ferrari using the V8 from the 458 in the Lafer.. im sure many would be very upset!
Rather than sharing the carbon fibre tub and engine with a lesser model as the P1 does.
On a second thought is the V12 in the Lafer the same engine to begin with as the F12?
Even if it is its still shared with the top car of the ferrari ordinary line up..
And not the starting model..
Imagine Ferrari using the V8 from the 458 in the Lafer.. im sure many would be very upset!
#167
03-06-2013, 01:19 PM
Regarding the 2G, in my opinion this is possible but more in theory than on a normal racetrack. If the P1 goes around a corner with 155mph or 250kmh it can generate the 2G but with around 62mph or 100kmh never of course.
Anyway I like both cars somehow but some details could have been better. I would not know which one to choose but that's never going to be the question anyway.
#168
03-06-2013, 02:15 PM
They should both be able to do 2Gs imo..
the Huayra can do 1.66G and these should be a step above.
And hey i guess that active aero on the huayra wasent just a gimmick..now that the big dogs are doing it also.
PS
I must say though that as per tradition the Italians (pagani and Ferrari) incorporated it in the most taste full way.. i freaked the **** out when that wing on the Lafer deployed..i didn't even notice the presence of a wing.
On the other side of the spectrum you have P1 and Agera who have big bold wings..
Its a taste thing..but i like it more elegant.
And i must add that the Agera now looks completely from a different era..whilst the P1,Huayra and Lafer look like precision knifes the Agera looks like a blunt instrument..something that belongs in the Era of Enzos and Maserati MC12s and what nots..
But i guess that's natural when the design is a EVOLUTION rather than REVOLUTION.
the Huayra can do 1.66G and these should be a step above.
And hey i guess that active aero on the huayra wasent just a gimmick..now that the big dogs are doing it also.
PS
I must say though that as per tradition the Italians (pagani and Ferrari) incorporated it in the most taste full way.. i freaked the **** out when that wing on the Lafer deployed..i didn't even notice the presence of a wing.
On the other side of the spectrum you have P1 and Agera who have big bold wings..
Its a taste thing..but i like it more elegant.
And i must add that the Agera now looks completely from a different era..whilst the P1,Huayra and Lafer look like precision knifes the Agera looks like a blunt instrument..something that belongs in the Era of Enzos and Maserati MC12s and what nots..
But i guess that's natural when the design is a EVOLUTION rather than REVOLUTION.
#169
03-06-2013, 02:34 PM
Probably the one potent upper hand Ferrari has over Pagani.
