RUfMD ex F50 Crashed.
May 28, 2009 | 03:59 PM
#41
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Right from Ferrarichat. And this is NOT including the Sultans cars....which they say is at least 10. So the "349" number is incorrect as I said.
F50
Production started: 1994.
Production ended: 1996
Total production: 380.
First serial number: 103097.
Last serial number: 107240.
Ferrari Road Car Models and Production Numbers - FerrariChat.com
May 28, 2009 | 04:04 PM
#42
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My "research" began and ended with the official Ferrari numbers. I'm not entitled to rely on that?
That's the best evidence I know. I trust that more than some random post on F-Chat and the Sultan's secret stable.
As a lawyer, I tend to trust what I can verify. That's just who I am.
My Official Ferrari release catalog shows 349 F50s produced. That number is corroborated by Leonardo Acerbi (Ferrari: All The Cars) and Richard Dredge (Ferrari Supercars - Tales From The Man Who Lived It) - both Ferrari historians with massive amounts of published work on the topic.
Believe what you like. I'm not going to turn this into an argument. I am just telling you what Ferrari has published as factual.
You may very well be right that the numbers published by Ferrari are inaccurate. But based on your evidence, I wouldn't plunk down $1 mil for the 401st Enzo.
Cheers.
That's the best evidence I know. I trust that more than some random post on F-Chat and the Sultan's secret stable.
As a lawyer, I tend to trust what I can verify. That's just who I am.
My Official Ferrari release catalog shows 349 F50s produced. That number is corroborated by Leonardo Acerbi (Ferrari: All The Cars) and Richard Dredge (Ferrari Supercars - Tales From The Man Who Lived It) - both Ferrari historians with massive amounts of published work on the topic.
Believe what you like. I'm not going to turn this into an argument. I am just telling you what Ferrari has published as factual.
You may very well be right that the numbers published by Ferrari are inaccurate. But based on your evidence, I wouldn't plunk down $1 mil for the 401st Enzo.
Cheers.
Last edited by Barrister; May 28, 2009 at 04:18 PM.
May 28, 2009 | 04:25 PM
#43
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My "research" began and ended with the official Ferrari numbers. I'm not entitled to rely on that?
That's the best evidence I know. I trust that more than some random post on F-Chat and the Sultan's secret stable.
Believe what you like. I'm not going to turn this into an argument.
But I wouldn't stand in line to buy the 401st Enzo.
Cheers.
That's the best evidence I know. I trust that more than some random post on F-Chat and the Sultan's secret stable.
Believe what you like. I'm not going to turn this into an argument.
But I wouldn't stand in line to buy the 401st Enzo.
Cheers.
The official number, from Porsche, of total Carrera GTs is 1250. We all know that isn't true.
You seem to be captivated by the fact that 349 is the "official" number from Ferrari and if Ferrari said so, it must be true. But, it's in their interest to keep the official word at whatever they quoted all those people who were originally picked to buy the car, and just build more to meet demand.
You can quote "official" numbers until you're blue in the face, it isn't going to make it any more true or factual.
May 28, 2009 | 04:28 PM
#44
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Dana, sometimes the official numbers don't have much credibility. It is widely known that Ferrari built more than 349 Enzos, and there is a SoCal Enzo owner who is personal friends with Luca Di Motezemolo who I've spoken to that has confirmed this.
The official number, from Porsche, of total Carrera GTs is 1250. We all know that isn't true.
You seem to be captivated by the fact that 349 is the "official" number from Ferrari and if Ferrari said so, it must be true. But, it's in their interest to keep the official word at whatever they quoted all those people who were originally picked to buy the car, and just build more to meet demand.
You can quote "official" numbers until you're blue in the face, it isn't going to make it any more true or factual.
The official number, from Porsche, of total Carrera GTs is 1250. We all know that isn't true.
You seem to be captivated by the fact that 349 is the "official" number from Ferrari and if Ferrari said so, it must be true. But, it's in their interest to keep the official word at whatever they quoted all those people who were originally picked to buy the car, and just build more to meet demand.
You can quote "official" numbers until you're blue in the face, it isn't going to make it any more true or factual.
While it might not ultimately be factual, it is verifiable from reliable, first-hand sources.
You can parrot rumors, speculation and heresay until you are blue in the face as well. Is that evidence?
But that's cool. We can just agree to disagree on this point.
Last edited by Barrister; May 28, 2009 at 04:30 PM.
May 28, 2009 | 04:31 PM
#46
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I'll stop it now.
May 28, 2009 | 05:38 PM
#47
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I am not saying that it is factual. I am saying that Ferrari - the "horse's mouth" so to speak (hardee har) - says 349 F50s were produced.
While it might not ultimately be factual, it is verifiable from reliable, first-hand sources.
You can parrot rumors, speculation and heresay until you are blue in the face as well. Is that evidence?
But that's cool. We can just agree to disagree on this point.
While it might not ultimately be factual, it is verifiable from reliable, first-hand sources.
You can parrot rumors, speculation and heresay until you are blue in the face as well. Is that evidence?
But that's cool. We can just agree to disagree on this point.
May 28, 2009 | 07:39 PM
#50
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 882
From: Florida
My "research" began and ended with the official Ferrari numbers. I'm not entitled to rely on that?
That's the best evidence I know. I trust that more than some random post on F-Chat and the Sultan's secret stable.
As a lawyer, I tend to trust what I can verify. That's just who I am.
My Official Ferrari release catalog shows 349 F50s produced. That number is corroborated by Leonardo Acerbi (Ferrari: All The Cars) and Richard Dredge (Ferrari Supercars - Tales From The Man Who Lived It) - both Ferrari historians with massive amounts of published work on the topic.
Believe what you like. I'm not going to turn this into an argument. I am just telling you what Ferrari has published as factual.
You may very well be right that the numbers published by Ferrari are inaccurate. But based on your evidence, I wouldn't plunk down $1 mil for the 401st Enzo.
Cheers.
That's the best evidence I know. I trust that more than some random post on F-Chat and the Sultan's secret stable.
As a lawyer, I tend to trust what I can verify. That's just who I am.
My Official Ferrari release catalog shows 349 F50s produced. That number is corroborated by Leonardo Acerbi (Ferrari: All The Cars) and Richard Dredge (Ferrari Supercars - Tales From The Man Who Lived It) - both Ferrari historians with massive amounts of published work on the topic.
Believe what you like. I'm not going to turn this into an argument. I am just telling you what Ferrari has published as factual.
You may very well be right that the numbers published by Ferrari are inaccurate. But based on your evidence, I wouldn't plunk down $1 mil for the 401st Enzo.
Cheers.