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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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I think the base price increase is about right for a generation jump - what's not right is what's included as standard. You should never be able to spec a car with +50% of the base price! Especially as those options lose all their value as soon as they leave the factory.

With regards to practicality and what you get for your money - a 997.2 Turbo S with a few 1000 miles on the clock is infinitely superior in all aspects to a 991.1 C2S - so that one just doesn't float.

I think Chris called it above - these inflated new 991 prices will just help the residuals on used models - including the 997.
 
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Carrera
I don't think its overpriced. A loaded new '99 996, after inflation is calculated in, doesn't cost that much less than a nicely optioned 991.

I think one of the reasons the 911 seems overpriced is because of just how practical of a car it is. Sometimes you have to think twice before you realize it can do the Nordschleife in well under 8 minutes.
I disagree. A well-optioned 996 was about $90K in 2003. A well optioned 991 in 2012 is going to be $120K+. That delta is far and above the inflation rate between those two years. Irregardless of what a great car the 991 is or isn't.

Yes, the 991 is overpriced. Greatly.
 
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod
I disagree. A well-optioned 996 was about $90K in 2003. A well optioned 991 in 2012 is going to be $120K+. That delta is far and above the inflation rate between those two years. Irregardless of what a great car the 991 is or isn't.

Yes, the 991 is overpriced. Greatly.
irregardless
 
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod
I disagree. A well-optioned 996 was about $90K in 2003. A well optioned 991 in 2012 is going to be $120K+. That delta is far and above the inflation rate between those two years. Irregardless of what a great car the 991 is or isn't.

Yes, the 991 is overpriced. Greatly.
Originally Posted by Alex_997TurboRSC
I think the base price increase is about right for a generation jump - what's not right is what's included as standard. You should never be able to spec a car with +50% of the base price! Especially as those options lose all their value as soon as they leave the factory.

With regards to practicality and what you get for your money - a 997.2 Turbo S with a few 1000 miles on the clock is infinitely superior in all aspects to a 991.1 C2S - so that one just doesn't float.

I think Chris called it above - these inflated new 991 prices will just help the residuals on used models - including the 997.
Totally agreed on this, all things in time will either increase or decrease with popularity me personally would never buy a 996 anything, but a 993 yes anyday....
 
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod
I disagree. A well-optioned 996 was about $90K in 2003. A well optioned 991 in 2012 is going to be $120K+. That delta is far and above the inflation rate between those two years. Irregardless of what a great car the 991 is or isn't.

Yes, the 991 is overpriced. Greatly.
The kids 10, I don't think he knows what inflation is.
 
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali

The 991 is overpriced and over-fluffed with that new interior. I foresee 997s mimicking the 993 in having increases in value over the years.
This is the statement of the thead/day/month/year ahahahahaha....

Seriously though, the 997 line is awesome all around and the value of these cars is HUGE right now and only going to get better once the 991s hit the streets. I was just thinking today how cool a 997.2 GTS would be in a year or so over a 991.
 
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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All Porsches are overpriced. Every time a new model comes out, I roll my eyes and say "at 30% lower, it would be a great buy".

But, they sell at those prices, every time. The Cayenne did, the Panamera is ($160k for a nudge better performance than an M5?), even at $50k+, the lowly plain-Jane Boxster sells.

They know how to price, and I resent the hell out of them for it!
 
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod
I disagree. A well-optioned 996 was about $90K in 2003. A well optioned 991 in 2012 is going to be $120K+. That delta is far and above the inflation rate between those two years. Irregardless of what a great car the 991 is or isn't.

Yes, the 991 is overpriced. Greatly.
With inflation calculated, that would be about 112k, but also remember, the 991 is a MUCH better car, so if you call the 996 priced just right, so is the 991.
 
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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I think for the performance you get its tough to justify $100K+ for the car. But people are always going to want new and if you want new you pay a premium. My buddy just picked up a 08 997 C4S a few weeks ago for $55K. Low miles, nice options. New it was right around $100K he said. I told him there is no way Id pay $100K for his car new no matter how nice it was.

Prices of turbo 997's are getting very tempting.
 
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the car is not overpriced. the options are. they always do...
 



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