to PCCB or not?
#11
Hey, I'm that wiseguy! I knew what you meant, just playing.

Yeah, initial bite when the brakes are wet and cold, not the same as hot. From what I've experienced, the stop distance is the same, but the initial bite doesn't seem like it. I've noted it right after I wash my car only. All seems normal within microseconds (well, maybe a half second). Cold brakes, no problem. In fact, cold and wet (like from rain), no problem. It's only after a wash (so maybe it's the soap??), and even then, only for the briefest of moments.
Still, I'd get them in your new car. They literally last a lifetime, they work great (admittedly, you're not likely to truly notice the difference from big reds which are also absolutely amazing), and there is ZERO brake dust. Sure they're expensive. Not unlike your new Porsche. If you can live with the price, get 'em.
Anyway, that's my $0.02. (and possibly your $8,000!
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#12
I'm not sold on them... for track use. There is limited pad selection, was only one choice but I hear there is another now. I was wearing thru a set of pads in about 4 to 6 weeks. Yes, for the PCCB option it is an 8k option, but it is somewhere between 3k and 5k a rotor to replace should you destroy one, for instance running out of brake pad and scoring the rotors.
I had them on my GT3 and I switched them out for AP Racing steel rotors on the front, cup car rotors on the rear. Better pad selection, better modulation... with the PCCB's they very easily go into ABS mode, which feels like the brakes aren't stopping when on the track. I am faster on the steels.
Of course this is for track use, brakes are a consumable, and I like to do that in a cost effective way.
I'm saving the ceramic rotors for resale, I'll replace them when I sell.
I had them on my GT3 and I switched them out for AP Racing steel rotors on the front, cup car rotors on the rear. Better pad selection, better modulation... with the PCCB's they very easily go into ABS mode, which feels like the brakes aren't stopping when on the track. I am faster on the steels.
Of course this is for track use, brakes are a consumable, and I like to do that in a cost effective way.
I'm saving the ceramic rotors for resale, I'll replace them when I sell.
#13
still on the fence re PCCB or not
I understand all the pros...nice job, thanks to all of you. Anyone out there had them for more than a few years; primarily for street use? What has been the experience? Would you get them again.
Also, are the PCCB handling characteristics different than the standard brakes? meaning more "grabby", sensitive, etc..
Well I am getting close to ordering MY '09...just trying to finalize a few options. thanks for all the feedback.
cheers!
Also, are the PCCB handling characteristics different than the standard brakes? meaning more "grabby", sensitive, etc..
Well I am getting close to ordering MY '09...just trying to finalize a few options. thanks for all the feedback.
cheers!
#14
JGolf,
Check out this recent thread on Rennlist dealing with PCCB longevity. What you'll find is that people that have them seem to love them. I'll warn you that there is a bias selection in that thread!
The Big Red brakes are phenomenal as well: Porsches have always been known for their brakes and the tradition continues. When you pound on them at 150 mph the deceleration is mind boggling.
Check out this recent thread on Rennlist dealing with PCCB longevity. What you'll find is that people that have them seem to love them. I'll warn you that there is a bias selection in that thread!
The Big Red brakes are phenomenal as well: Porsches have always been known for their brakes and the tradition continues. When you pound on them at 150 mph the deceleration is mind boggling.
#15
Coochas,
this was a great link re PCCBs -- thanks so much for your help. And a new site for me to subscribe!
BTW -- I like your personal site with the archived model year catalogs; well done.
cheers
this was a great link re PCCBs -- thanks so much for your help. And a new site for me to subscribe!
BTW -- I like your personal site with the archived model year catalogs; well done.
cheers
#17
I like to track my car as well as drive it on the street and from what I've seen at track days PCCB are not very durable with both pads and the carbon rotors. The 997's with PCCB's are no faster than 997's with steel brakes. Unless you do not track your car and just like the looks/bling of the PCCB's I would never spend the money and get them as they have proven they are not reliable.
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