Ruf 550
#2
08-25-2010, 10:34 AM
On another note, I have heard nothing but great things about RUF, including very high mileage ones still running smooth. I'd go for it.
#4
08-25-2010, 11:18 AM
RUF is very expensive and there are alot of tuners that can do the mods you want for less money. But RUF is always RUF, it can never go wrong. If you think its worth it (compared to other tuners) Go for it!
#5
08-25-2010, 11:39 AM
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 887
Ruf certainly has the name and panache, but I was looking for some personal experience from those who did the 550, or someone who has used a competing product, why and what they did? How bulletproof? How much?
That price includes full install.
That price includes full install.
#7
08-25-2010, 10:07 PM
RAC (Ruf AutoCenter) is no longer importing conversion packages for Ruf GmbH. While they can get some items, they are no longer providing conversion packages.
Ruf Auto US (Southfield, MI) is now the exclusive importer for Ruf products. I have no experience with them.
The package is solid. The torque is much more linear than stock...a never ending freight train. The clutch upgrade has a very similar feel as the stock clutch/pressure plate. The exhaust is converted to 2.75in piping with 100 cell cats that are emissions legal in my state. Fairly quiet for aftermarket.
My fastest trap was 127 on PS2 tires, 93 octane
My fastest 60-130 7.31 on winter tires 35F weather, 93 octane.
Hope this helped.
Ruf Auto US (Southfield, MI) is now the exclusive importer for Ruf products. I have no experience with them.
The package is solid. The torque is much more linear than stock...a never ending freight train. The clutch upgrade has a very similar feel as the stock clutch/pressure plate. The exhaust is converted to 2.75in piping with 100 cell cats that are emissions legal in my state. Fairly quiet for aftermarket.
My fastest trap was 127 on PS2 tires, 93 octane
My fastest 60-130 7.31 on winter tires 35F weather, 93 octane.
Hope this helped.
#8
08-25-2010, 10:18 PM
Ruf is Ruf, no one would blame you for going that route. a competing product that i have experience with would be DMS, well regarded in the EU and damn stout power-wise. evo has featured their 996TT and 997TT and both are 5 star cars.
edit: found it for you
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...997_turbo.html
DMS 997 Turbo
Rating:
911 Turbo gets Carrera GT levels of power
We’ve driven this car before. Back in issue 104 Henry described the DMS 997 Turbo’s performance as delivering ‘a haymaker to the base of your spine’. Then it had 534bhp. Now it has 605bhp…
As before, the DMS Turbo gets a new ECU and exhaust, but now you can add to those a new manifold and some tweaks to Porsche’s variable geometry turbines. So, bigger lungs, better breathing.
At first it’s hard to see what the fuss is about. Sure, the exhaust provides more accompaniment, but it doesn’t suggest this car is packing the same power and a healthy 162lb ft more torque than a Carrera GT – all channelled through the standard clutch, four-wheel-drive system and suspension.
Ah, a quiet, straight road. Select third at 2000rpm and hear the noisier turbos start to whoosh and fizz. Plenty of bark, not much bite – it doesn’t feel as responsive and rapid down here as the standard car, although DMS’s Rob Young claims it produces more torque everywhere.
No matter, 3000rpm has just passed and all hell’s broken loose. The turbos are now properly hooked up and Henry’s haymaker has connected. God, it sounds fierce. And then the needle scoots past 4500rpm and urgent, pressing acceleration becomes raw, savage, grip-wheel-hard-and-concentrate acceleration. So this is what 1.4bar of boost feels like.
Where the standard Turbo is linear, almost apologetically smooth, and has given its best by 5000rpm, the DMS just gets more and more eye-popping until the 6750rpm limiter calls time. It’s epic, hilarious and addictive in every gear, yet docile when cruising.
The drivetrain and suspension do a great job of keeping things under control, but as with all Turbos it’s a bit soft at the back, and despite the optional LSD and PCCB brakes, it’s best to take a gentle approach into corners, be patient through them and deploy the throttle progressively as you wind the lock off. Then simply sit back (as if you have a choice!) and enjoy.
The turbo mods and new manifold aren’t cheap (£5170 and £2056 respectively). Add the ECU and exhaust work and the total bill is £11,600. However, DMS’s pack fundamentally alters the Turbo’s character, giving it an angry, volatile, animalistic edge. Cheaper than a GT2, too.
Engine: Flat-six, 3600cc, twin-turbo
Max power: 605bhp @ 6600rpm
Max torque: 597lb ft @ 3900rpm
0 - 60mph: 3.5 sec (est)
Top speed: 199mph (rev limit in sixth)
On Sale: Now (http://www.dmsautomotive.com)
edit: found it for you
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...997_turbo.html
DMS 997 Turbo
Rating:
911 Turbo gets Carrera GT levels of power
We’ve driven this car before. Back in issue 104 Henry described the DMS 997 Turbo’s performance as delivering ‘a haymaker to the base of your spine’. Then it had 534bhp. Now it has 605bhp…
As before, the DMS Turbo gets a new ECU and exhaust, but now you can add to those a new manifold and some tweaks to Porsche’s variable geometry turbines. So, bigger lungs, better breathing.
At first it’s hard to see what the fuss is about. Sure, the exhaust provides more accompaniment, but it doesn’t suggest this car is packing the same power and a healthy 162lb ft more torque than a Carrera GT – all channelled through the standard clutch, four-wheel-drive system and suspension.
Ah, a quiet, straight road. Select third at 2000rpm and hear the noisier turbos start to whoosh and fizz. Plenty of bark, not much bite – it doesn’t feel as responsive and rapid down here as the standard car, although DMS’s Rob Young claims it produces more torque everywhere.
No matter, 3000rpm has just passed and all hell’s broken loose. The turbos are now properly hooked up and Henry’s haymaker has connected. God, it sounds fierce. And then the needle scoots past 4500rpm and urgent, pressing acceleration becomes raw, savage, grip-wheel-hard-and-concentrate acceleration. So this is what 1.4bar of boost feels like.
Where the standard Turbo is linear, almost apologetically smooth, and has given its best by 5000rpm, the DMS just gets more and more eye-popping until the 6750rpm limiter calls time. It’s epic, hilarious and addictive in every gear, yet docile when cruising.
The drivetrain and suspension do a great job of keeping things under control, but as with all Turbos it’s a bit soft at the back, and despite the optional LSD and PCCB brakes, it’s best to take a gentle approach into corners, be patient through them and deploy the throttle progressively as you wind the lock off. Then simply sit back (as if you have a choice!) and enjoy.
The turbo mods and new manifold aren’t cheap (£5170 and £2056 respectively). Add the ECU and exhaust work and the total bill is £11,600. However, DMS’s pack fundamentally alters the Turbo’s character, giving it an angry, volatile, animalistic edge. Cheaper than a GT2, too.
Engine: Flat-six, 3600cc, twin-turbo
Max power: 605bhp @ 6600rpm
Max torque: 597lb ft @ 3900rpm
0 - 60mph: 3.5 sec (est)
Top speed: 199mph (rev limit in sixth)
On Sale: Now (http://www.dmsautomotive.com)
Last edited by IIVVX; 08-25-2010 at 10:27 PM.
#9
08-25-2010, 11:16 PM
Forgot to mention a few other things.
1. Ruf does not flash their ECUs. They use a physical bypass chip that is soldered to the ECU logic board.
2. Ruf requires 93 octane. It is not programmed for higher octane, nor is it tolerant of 91 or lower octane.
1. Ruf does not flash their ECUs. They use a physical bypass chip that is soldered to the ECU logic board.
2. Ruf requires 93 octane. It is not programmed for higher octane, nor is it tolerant of 91 or lower octane.
#10
08-26-2010, 05:57 AM
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 887
Thanks for all the info. Forgetting trap and 0-60, etc. In daily driving did the car feel so much more powerful, that you felt you had 15K worth of change? Subjective question, I know, but trying to get a feel for what a 70 hp bump will actually mean to me.