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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian
you guys are way to {sic} paranoid
Explain?

FWIW, I don't carry a gun on a regular basis at home. I just don't see the threat here warranting carrying a 2-pound lump in my pants (well, another 2-lb lump ). When I lived in LA, carrying a guy definitely WAS on the agenda as I've experienced all kinds of crazy shit living there. Most folks I know that do carry, take it very seriously and it is certainly not some kind of macho bullshit thing. I hope you never find yourself in a predicament that would have benefited from you being armed.
 
Old Jan 1, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
Gotta disagree here. Caliber (well, muzzle energy) is a factor at any range. It's just that shot placement is a more important factor.

Nope. Shot placed well is putting most people down regardless of caliber thats why when i goto range I don't look for the pinhole shots I place my target 7-9yds and closer and just place every shot in a critical area..I know alot of you guys have tactical and armed forces training but I have been shooting since 1988 and I am a very good shot.
 
Old Jan 2, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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Marc - I'm not disagreeing about shot placement, but think about the logic: If I hit you in the same location but with a larger, faster bullet, I'm going to do more damage. That's why I said caliber still matters. Another, more vivid example: .22LR and .223 (5.56mm) are roughly equivalent in diameter, yet the .223 bullet is heavier and travels much faster. Which would you think would be more damaging (assuming they hit the same location)? That said, I agree that shot placement is paramount. My go-to spot when shooting face isn't possible or likely? Pelvic girdle.
 
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I have the 238 in equinox finish, when I carry it's my first choice. I have a PM9 Kaahr as well, can't shoot groups for $hit with it!
 
Old Jan 4, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
Marc - I'm not disagreeing about shot placement, but think about the logic: If I hit you in the same location but with a larger, faster bullet, I'm going to do more damage. That's why I said caliber still matters. Another, more vivid example: .22LR and .223 (5.56mm) are roughly equivalent in diameter, yet the .223 bullet is heavier and travels much faster. Which would you think would be more damaging (assuming they hit the same location)? That said, I agree that shot placement is paramount. My go-to spot when shooting face isn't possible or likely? Pelvic girdle.
Lets not get bogged down into caliber religion. The discussion is using whatever caliber you have, in hand, when/if the SHTF.
 
Old Jan 4, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc
Caliber is not a factor at close range
Not always, but at times it can be. I don't think I'd want to be lobbing .22s at a 300 lb guy on meth or something. Yes, one will do it in the right spot, but the effect of a high energy round even in a non-fatal hit is considerably more effective at stopping an attack than those that tend to turn something into a bullet sponge.

That all being said, the best gun in the world for self defense is the one right next to the other gun you're also shooting at the bad guys.
 
Old Jan 4, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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Simba, as you probably know, in NY we are not allowed to carry more than one gun at a time.
 
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Originally Posted by Stryke
Simba, as you probably know, in NY we are not allowed to carry more than one gun at a time.
But Officer, I was on my way to the range.
 
Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:35 PM
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On the way to the range, loaded, chambered and holstered??
 
Old Jan 5, 2011 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Stryke
On the way to the range, loaded, chambered and holstered??
So it's in a bad neighborhood...
 

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