Hahaha! Nice.

To Streetrod or anyone else who thinks there is no story here, all you need to do is look at Pagani's reactions.

Removal and replacement of a compliance data plate in quick succession, as quickZohsix has pointed out, by one of dramatically lesser quality (Why engrave the first version on polished aluminum if the intent all along was to use an adhesive label? No doubt the second label was much easier/quicker to produce, perhaps locally).

I would say this indicates that Pagani have been compelled to take the issues I have raised here VERY seriously.

 

Why are you banging on about this unless you work for the U.S. government or a supercar rival to Pagani why do you care so much?

Just asking?

 

I second that, little annoying.

 

Wow Peloton, your memory is short. As someone who has backed your stance on many things and recommended you as a source of information on many occasions not just on here but on Pistonheads and other sites, I find your response both disappointing an inaccurate. My comment above was made with a tinge of humour, but for some it seems this just goes right over their heads, shame.

So let me make myself clear. I am a huge fan of the Zonda, but have never professed to have similar feelings for the Huayra. I know some of the staff at Pagani, have been invited to their events and have a huge respect for what they do and have achieved.

Now if this particular car was a customer car then this whole discussion would have some merit, but its not, it’s a demo car. Which is why I can’t understand some people’s need to get over exited about something that will lead nowhere?

If you can come back to me with a similar accusation about a customer car then I will back you all the way. Until then I stand by my comments.

Peloton to what end would I need to distract the discussion? I offered an opinion. If you can’t see that then the upmost respect I once held for you has taken a major hit

 

With the greatest respect Matt, what "real" evidence do you have that Pagani's reaction has anything or is related in anyway to this thread?

Your arguments are purely speculative. It makes for a great tale. But until you can produce evidence, at best all you have is a coincidence.....sorry mate

 

I have to agree in a way..this thread is going no where until we here from pagani, or we have proof that they put a faulty tag on a customer car.

But then again this has been admitted and stated by the thread starter.

So one has to respect his investigative skills, and just wait until further developments, as of now its like beating a dead horse.

 

I'm pretty much done with it, Alan, as I don't think there will be any more to add or discover.

I do not work for the U.S. government, nor do I work for a “supercar rival”, by which I am sure you mean Koenigsegg. I don’t believe it’s any secret that I’ve been maintaining a Koenigsegg Registry for over four years. You would rightly say that Koenigsegg is my favorite exotic brand, among many that I favor.

Understand however that even as a Koenigsegg fan I have no problem with Pagani or its cars. I feel the two brands complement each other well, and call to different emotions in the market. It’s little surprise that there are folks with one of each. I think it’s great that Pagani have decided to finally enter the U.S. market, with all the regulatory nightmare that entails, and furthermore have gone on record that the car in question in this thread is easily the prettiest Huyara yet built.

Again, I took a look at the data plate initially because I was excited to finally see a U.S.-spec Huayra, and recognized immediately that something was amiss, since it referred to an exemption that I know Pagani does not have. The reasons why I notice and keep track of these types of things are not nearly as sinister as one might believe. The long form answer would help explain it if you are interested, but it might just derail the thread too much.

Perhaps in my zeal to report I've gone on too long, but when I see something that I know is wrong, I'm going to speak up. It's just the way I am, I guess.

I don't have any such evidence, Street, other than the common sense to put two and two together. All due respect as well, you've presented nothing to explain away what we have seen. It would have to be an astounding coincidence, wouldn't you think? In any case, I don't expect any further evidence either way to surface. So in the end I guess you and I are both neither right nor wrong.

 

Seems to me that the original plate with Koenigsegg info would be pretty strong evidence of something fughazy going on. NO WAY Pagani didn't know the tag was not legit. The gun is smoking and still warm!!

BTW: It's in the best interest of any potential customer to be aware of what is going on with the manufacturer of any limited quantity, super expensive exotic automobile they may be interested in purchasing.

 

I respect you too streetrod454 and normally value your contributions. I've come to your aid in the past as well and would do it again, but I'm not going to apologize for what I wrote or back down from it. Since you admitted at the beginning of this thread that you don't care about the topic, why continue reading it and why post in it unless you're trying to shape the conversation to suit your own objectives. Don't feint like it was just a bit of humor - that's funnier than the sour joke you "apparently" tried to make.

Doesn't matter if Pagani sold this car to someone or are using it only as a demo. They shouldn't import any car to the USA with false data on a plate like that. It is deceptive and illegal. I don't have to work for the DOT to recognize that and chastise them for it. They should be very glad no one who mattered caught it.

They presented the car at Quail and told several visitors to their display that this car was the final North American configuration, fully certified for US sale. I'm disappointed that this plate didn't catch my eye when I was viewing the car as it would have changed the course of our conversation very swiftly. I wouldn't have know that the 06-10 exemption was Koenigsegg's but I am certainly aware that Pagani never received an exemption for Advanced Airbags.

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Hi Mattjs33 thanks for your reply, to be honest when I said super car rival, I was not referencing Koenigsegg in particular. Just any manufactuer that makes a rival product be it Bugatti, Koenigsegg, SSC, Mclaren or whoever.
Those that know me, know I adore all supercars and hold no candle for any particular specialist manufacturer, though I admit I love and respect and adore the Lamborghini marque in particular but they are not in my book a niche supercar manufacturer these days!