***The Official Australian GP Race Weekend Banter Thread [SPOILERS]***
#1471
Lemme quote a certain Dale Earnhardt.
"The winner ain't the one with the fastest car, it's the one who refuses to lose."
I have far more respect for the guy who gave it all and crashed than for the one who "plays it safe". That's just an excuse for not having the guts to drive the hell out of your car.
"The winner ain't the one with the fastest car, it's the one who refuses to lose."
I have far more respect for the guy who gave it all and crashed than for the one who "plays it safe". That's just an excuse for not having the guts to drive the hell out of your car.
There are certain times you must use finesse to win. Like Mayoof said, it was the first race of the season, let your pit crew and management have a nice podium finish, take the points and build on that. Now he lost in Aus and is hurt in Mal too. How can that be the right way to race??
#1472
Damn accountants and lawyers taking over F1.
I guess that's why I watch MotoGP. They don't count, they give it all to win. Anyone remember Biaggi in Holland way back? He got black-flagged and kept on going because one thing mattered in his mind ... finish first. He did finish first ... in his head only. But I'd have done the same.
FWIW, finesse is letting your opponent through when you see he's overcooked it and take the interior back when he's struggling on the outside. Letting an opponent through just because you don't feel safe is just what Jean Todt the Hobbit would do.
It's all personal. I like drivers with panache, old-school. I don't care about the team or the championship, as long as the driver gave it all.
I guess that's why I watch MotoGP. They don't count, they give it all to win. Anyone remember Biaggi in Holland way back? He got black-flagged and kept on going because one thing mattered in his mind ... finish first. He did finish first ... in his head only. But I'd have done the same.
FWIW, finesse is letting your opponent through when you see he's overcooked it and take the interior back when he's struggling on the outside. Letting an opponent through just because you don't feel safe is just what Jean Todt the Hobbit would do.
It's all personal. I like drivers with panache, old-school. I don't care about the team or the championship, as long as the driver gave it all.
Last edited by Zorro; 03-29-2009 at 05:44 PM.
#1473
You make a good point though. The FIA had this very thing in mind when they tried to make wins determine the championship. They wanted to encourage drivers to race to win - all the time. But what happened to Vettel and Kubica yesterday is the inevitable product of that kind of thinking. It is great for the spectators - unless you had both Kubica and Vettel on your team. But it creates a crazy, all-or-nothing attitude that is not well suited for the higher level of technology and compeition that is F1 racing.
#1474
The crash itself is very unfortunate but I'm glad that drivers that haven't been that much on top still drives like it's the end of the world and winning is everything. It would be tragic to see teams like RB, Toyota, BGP etc play safe and get points in the beginning just because Ferrari and McLaren are out of shape.... A little blurry post but I guess you get my point....
#1475
To me all-or-nothing is exactly what competition is. Everything else is politics and should have no say once the lights go off.
I raced, and your heart stops every time someone passes you. That's maybe why my position on this is so one-sided.
#1476
No brother. That's what makes your opinion so very valuable. Those of us who have never been behind the wheel can learn a thing or two about the competative nature of racing from those who have. I very much respect and value that perspective.
#1480
Wow what a great thread! Sorry I missed out on it. Haven't seen the race yet due to an unfortunate incident with a set of stairs and some hospital time but reading through all of the posts during the race right now, I felt like I was watching it! Buddy of mine has it on his DVR, hope to go watch it tonight.