McLaren P1 - exclusive on-track review by Autocar
#21
Well, I dont think its that bad..was the review of the 918 better? On the subject - I really still believe this car will destroy the 918..but lets see...
What really upset me however - and where he lost his creditibility - "this car feels much faster then the Honda F1 2007 car.."..well, really sir? How can one be so naive believing that this car can outperform a Honda F1 car from 2007..?
What we need now is: a track and clocked comparison between La Ferrari, Mclaren P1, and the 918..but I fear that none of the manufacturers will agree to that because one will look like a complete idiot/fool afterwars..- I wont disclose my personal opnion on this one..
What really upset me however - and where he lost his creditibility - "this car feels much faster then the Honda F1 2007 car.."..well, really sir? How can one be so naive believing that this car can outperform a Honda F1 car from 2007..?
What we need now is: a track and clocked comparison between La Ferrari, Mclaren P1, and the 918..but I fear that none of the manufacturers will agree to that because one will look like a complete idiot/fool afterwars..- I wont disclose my personal opnion on this one..
#22
Jesus christ, the negativity on here! Be happy, you just got to see the brand new P1, spanked around a track. I can agree to an extent, it wasn't the best of reviews, but compared to what's out there on YouTube (90% shit), I would be god damn happy I got to see this video without even paying a cent.
I don't see how some of you can criticize Chris Harris. I for one, think that his reviews offer the absolute perfect combination of factual information, opinions, performance testing (often, not always, timed laps) and entertainment (drifting). What's wrong with offsetting the balance of the car and exploring its limits, on a track? I find CHs car control simply impressive, and most definitely entertaining. It's not like he's trashing cars (which I absolutely hate see people doing...), he's simply making the cars dance around a bit, on track. The F12 test had a bit much of it, but otherwise his videos are great!
Try loosen up a bit guys, it's not always about lap-times or being faster. Hit that PSM, TC(+SC) OFF (I know there are plenty of 997 GT3 owners here...)DSC, or ESP button once in a while, or switch that Manettino all the way to "Commit Suicide Training" and pretend you're 12 years old. Be happy! If anything, it would make you a better driver, and the experience could potentially save your ass, while exploring limits on track.
I don't see how some of you can criticize Chris Harris. I for one, think that his reviews offer the absolute perfect combination of factual information, opinions, performance testing (often, not always, timed laps) and entertainment (drifting). What's wrong with offsetting the balance of the car and exploring its limits, on a track? I find CHs car control simply impressive, and most definitely entertaining. It's not like he's trashing cars (which I absolutely hate see people doing...), he's simply making the cars dance around a bit, on track. The F12 test had a bit much of it, but otherwise his videos are great!
Try loosen up a bit guys, it's not always about lap-times or being faster. Hit that PSM, TC(+SC) OFF (I know there are plenty of 997 GT3 owners here...)DSC, or ESP button once in a while, or switch that Manettino all the way to "Commit Suicide Training" and pretend you're 12 years old. Be happy! If anything, it would make you a better driver, and the experience could potentially save your ass, while exploring limits on track.
Here is a simple entertaining/informative thought. Instead of drifting, how about a journalist take for example 3 cars. A Toyota BRZ, a C7 Corvette, and the Mclaren P1. Pick a corner. Any corner. Toss all 3 into that corner, and record the speed in which car A, B & C can take that corner before the grip level expires. Do the same with braking, etc... A person who is about to spend 6 figures or more on a car may just want to know where his money is going in comparison to a more affordable sports car; and the guy with the more affordable sports car something to work for, dream about & aspire to.
Think of it this way: You have a favorite Ball team. You want to see that team have a bright successful future. You want to see them absolutely wipe the floor with their competition. You want to see them be anything but their competition. You don't want to see them become their competition even if others like/support the opposing team.
Well, I dont think its that bad..was the review of the 918 better? On the subject - I really still believe this car will destroy the 918..but lets see...
What really upset me however - and where he lost his creditibility - "this car feels much faster then the Honda F1 2007 car.."..well, really sir? How can one be so naive believing that this car can outperform a Honda F1 car from 2007..?
What we need now is: a track and clocked comparison between La Ferrari, Mclaren P1, and the 918..but I fear that none of the manufacturers will agree to that because one will look like a complete idiot/fool afterwars..- I wont disclose my personal opnion on this one..
What really upset me however - and where he lost his creditibility - "this car feels much faster then the Honda F1 2007 car.."..well, really sir? How can one be so naive believing that this car can outperform a Honda F1 car from 2007..?
What we need now is: a track and clocked comparison between La Ferrari, Mclaren P1, and the 918..but I fear that none of the manufacturers will agree to that because one will look like a complete idiot/fool afterwars..- I wont disclose my personal opnion on this one..
Last edited by Zeus; 01-29-2014 at 03:13 PM.
#23
You're welcome DJ.
With respect to the review, I think the expectations surrounding the P1 were very high and somehow the video left us with little flavor, but consider that Steve Sutcliffe drive the P1 on the GP track, for just a few brief laps, apparently is what he was allowed.
I do not know how many journalists are willing to squeeze the potential of P1 (£866,000), without having spent a reasonable period of adaptation. Imo
PS:
"You can drive this car slowly easily, but it will take a while longer really to get a handle on all it can do. You need to learn it, and then begin to push the abilities of yourself and it in unison." Tom Ford - Top Gear
"This is not, I rapidly conclude, a Big Daddy version of the 12C. It's a completely different animal. One that will chew you up, take you for a death roll for a while, then spit you back from whence you came. And that's in Normal mode." Steve Sutcliffe
With respect to the review, I think the expectations surrounding the P1 were very high and somehow the video left us with little flavor, but consider that Steve Sutcliffe drive the P1 on the GP track, for just a few brief laps, apparently is what he was allowed.
I do not know how many journalists are willing to squeeze the potential of P1 (£866,000), without having spent a reasonable period of adaptation. Imo
PS:
"You can drive this car slowly easily, but it will take a while longer really to get a handle on all it can do. You need to learn it, and then begin to push the abilities of yourself and it in unison." Tom Ford - Top Gear
"This is not, I rapidly conclude, a Big Daddy version of the 12C. It's a completely different animal. One that will chew you up, take you for a death roll for a while, then spit you back from whence you came. And that's in Normal mode." Steve Sutcliffe
#24
I was really excited to watch this video after they teased it, saying they were taking time to edit it. What a disappointing video! The teaser was 10x better than the finished video, but the car should be great and I can't wait to see Chris Harris get his hands on it. I am really looking forward to the first 918 vs. P1 video.
#25
Sutcliffe spun and damaged the car in his third or fourth lap cutting short the planned afternoon activities, so I was making a bit of a joke there.
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