M Gets Small: BMW Cutting Cylinders for M3 and 1 Series

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Apr 27, 2009 | 05:44 PM

#51

"The JC"

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Originally Posted by IIVVX

im not seeing a problem here?

less weight and the addition of turbos, sounds like a great recipe to me.

Less weight = F@ck Yeah
Turbos = Hell No, high revving NA for my ///M please

Apr 27, 2009 | 05:59 PM

#52

LRDog

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Originally Posted by cstroked

I will take a stab at this.

In the 1980s a fuel injection system was developed for the SBC or 351 Windsor (don't remember which one exactly. Will check). The system was designed, patterned, and cast and tested. If I recall correctly, it was a 40-60mpg system. As production was set up, one of the large oil companies (no names) got wind of it and bought the patent for somewhere in the tens-of-millions range. It was shelved. We supplied the material for the pattern - that is why I know this. Call BS if you want, it won't hurt my feelings - but that is fact.

I believe there are more than a few stories like this and I also believe most of them to be true, especially yours since you say you were there. The way oil companies will deal with the higher fuel efficiency is with higher pump prices b/c of the decreased demand. Either way they win.....

Apr 27, 2009 | 06:03 PM

#53

LRDog

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Originally Posted by Guest

Hopefully there will be a change of plans and there will be an AMG/BS version for the next gen.

Maybe I can drive one then...

Since the CLK is going away all together and being replaced with the E Coupe and AMG has announced there will not be a Black Series in that lineup, I doubt there will ever be anything quite like the 2008 CLK63 Black Series.

Apr 27, 2009 | 06:40 PM

#54

cstroked

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Originally Posted by chuck z

Exactly - they have so much f***ing $ they can throw it around.

Apr 27, 2009 | 08:47 PM

#55

slavik

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very interesting... not too sure how i feel about their direction... guess i will have to wait on the cars being released....

Apr 27, 2009 | 10:57 PM

#56

M5Kid

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Originally Posted by chuck z

Legislation (or threat there of) = Manufacturer Marketing Dept spin to a positive. Seems to be working pretty well on you. Really, why else would BMW wave the white flag in the high-output HP race where the selling prices are raised exponentially in their favor with the power increases?

Perhaps you glanced over the points I made about the specifics of CAFE or upcoming EISA standards. If BMW wanted to continue to make high HP cars, they would. There are all types of avenues they could explore to continue to do so and meet the federal regulations (both current and upcoming), IMO. But, it's pretty clear we're not going to agree on this, which is fine.