i dont buy this

 

Gents the GT2RS will be absolutely ANNIHILATED in a straight line FROM A STANDING START by the Macca . Underestimate that cars launch at your peril .
However remember that Clarckson / Top Gear is filmed primarily as entertainment not information , hence you always get some " creative license " in what they show and what he says ( that's well known here in the UK ).
Perhaps on the move the results would be slightly different but believe me with the way it makes its power and with that gearbox the Macca is a formidable weapon in a straight line AND I HATE THE BLOODY THING . I prefer to drive my own cars , I dont want a chauffeur , electronic or otherwise . Thats why I passed on my slot .
Facts are facts however .

 

Well put. Seeing as you track your CGT quite often your input weighs heavy.

 

Thank you .

Even from a logical point of view its very likely the result is accurate . The cars weigh about the same , have the same sort of power and both are turbocharged . However the Macca has a VASTLY faster gearbox / shift and is lower / more aerodynamic with a superior launch control system .
Why , no HOW could the Porsche be faster ? Obviously the MP412-635437453783-abcdefg will be faster off the line .

Logic is a cold , hard mistress indeed ...


Anyway , Porsches are built for corners . I remember when Walter Rohrl was told " The Enzo is faster than the Carrera GT " he smiled and replied " Yes . Only in a straight line ... " or words to that effect .

 

I hope the Macca catches a virus with all it's freakin computer devices.

I wouldn't be suprised, if one day you turn on your car and the following showed up on the display.

 

Sinan , It has !!!!
The MP4-12abcdefg is falling apart here . They are breaking down all over the shop . Its so bad that Ron Dennis is blaming owners for " pressing too many buttons " ( I KID YOU NOT , ITS HILARIOUS ! ).
They STILL cant get the sat nav and infotainment systems to work . A friend of mine who tested one remarked that it was like an early pre production prototype .

Interesting the news hasn't reached across the pond .

 

Heres an article if anyones interested :

McLaren’s new £160,000 British-built supercar, born out of the Formula One team’s championship-winning technology, has been dogged by software problems since its launch — and it’s all down to new owners pressing too many knobs at the same time.

The admission has emerged in an exclusive interview with Ron Dennis, the motor racing legend who launched the McLaren Automotive roadcar manufacturer after stepping back from the day-to-day running of the F1 team two years ago.

Mr Dennis has admitted that technology issues have meant that the first generation of McLaren MP4-12C owners, having parted with a large portion of their net worth, are taking delivery without satellite navigation or in-car phone working.

The MP4-12C has been hailed as Britain’s fightback against the latest beasts from Italy, such as the Lamborghini Aventador and the Ferrari FF, but its birth has not been easy, Mr Dennis confessed to The Times.

“It’s a complex car,” the 64-year-old McLaren chief executive said. “Virtually every single problem has its root cause in software. As intense as our development work has been, some problems have manifested themselves in the hands of the customer as they learn about the car.”

Drivers have been pressing buttons in sequences the car deems “illogical”, Mr Dennis said. “The car [during development] was in the hands of our engineers, who know how to set it up electronically.

“They haven’t thrown at the car the sort of combinations that they thought would ever be thrown at it — this switch, that switch, open a window, leave the window half-open. The car is left thinking. That means it doesn’t go to sleep. That produces a current drain, which has led to all sorts of problems.”


Mr Dennis said that customers had been given an option. “It is an inconvenience, but we have asked them: ‘Would you prefer to have the car and we’ll do the upgrade later?’ The overwhelming opinion was even if the telephone and sat-nav are not connected, they’d still rather have the car.”

The company says that the fleet has gradually been debugged by software upgrades done at customers’ homes.

Mr Dennis was speaking before the opening next week of the MP4-12C’s purpose-built factory at McLaren’s F1 headquarters outside Woking in Surrey. “The overall performance of the car is sensational but we have some challenges.

“We are a new brand, a new factory with a lot of new people. The common thread is the absolute determination to be very good at what we do, to be relentless in our pursuit of quality. Any customer experiencing any pain is only experiencing a percentage of what I feel if we fail to achieve those goals.”


That is a far cry from his earlier almost bullish " we will crush Ferrari " talk

 

Great info, thanks for sharing!

Technology is killing cars.

 

The problem seems to be that McLaren didn't do proper testing of the car. Leave the window half open confuses the software? Seriously McLaren, did you think the cars were gonna be driven by the same robots who programmed it?

 

Drag strip media. TG/BBC helping McL after tepid media response and disappointing quality reports. IMHO, having driven the MP4-12C, it could turn out to be a great car, but is not there yet (electronics etc). Reliability / performance on track still to be seen. Car was good, parts of it fantastic; whole package just not $300K good. $180-$220 seemed about right. 12C for traffic, GT2 for fun. YMMV