Questions on buying a GT3RS
#11
12-09-2009, 01:32 PM
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary/VB
Posts: 291
Hey Guys thanks for the welcome. Ill make sure to update as I find "the" car. We are right into winter so nothing will happen for a few months.
Just reading on another thread guys replacing PCCBs is this just for tracking the car? Are the PCCBs an option that I am looking for?
Thanks again!!
Just reading on another thread guys replacing PCCBs is this just for tracking the car? Are the PCCBs an option that I am looking for?
Thanks again!!
#13
12-09-2009, 01:50 PM
thats a beautiful 930 btw
#14
12-09-2009, 02:08 PM
Have you guys that are knocking RS's owned/driven them?
They are not humongous, heavy, or quiet. That would be describing a GT2 or Turbo.....the GT3/rs won't even pass the sound restriction at Laguna when in Sport mode.
Seriously, the RS is an incredible car, very balanced, and refined enough to drive on the street, but a monster on the track.
As far as replacing rotors....the PCCB's are a bit over-hyped. Yes, they're great because you don't get brake dust, and they're pretty incredible as far as stopping power goes....but it's mostly because they're BIGGER than the steel rotors. The big drawback to steel cross-drilled rotors is fade/warping, because brake dust gets lodged in the holes and prevents proper cooling. This does not happen with the ceramics because there is no brake dust. However....I've still gotten PCCB's to smoke, and still gotten them to fade. The best rotors on the market, for almost any application, are slotted steel rotors. Ceramics cost a fortune to replace, and with the case of both Porsche and Ferraris, people are finding out they really don't have the life they are supposed to have, especially if tracking the car.
As far as the RMS goes....I've seen maybe two gt3/rs's out of 30+ that I've transacted that DIDN'T need the rear main seal replaced. However...it's a warranty item, so not something to really be overly concerned about for the next few years. Just make sure you get a car that doesn't have excessive overrevs as the dealer may refuse to replace the RMS under warranty if the car has been abused.
All that being said.....check out the white one we have.
They are not humongous, heavy, or quiet. That would be describing a GT2 or Turbo.....the GT3/rs won't even pass the sound restriction at Laguna when in Sport mode.
Seriously, the RS is an incredible car, very balanced, and refined enough to drive on the street, but a monster on the track.
As far as replacing rotors....the PCCB's are a bit over-hyped. Yes, they're great because you don't get brake dust, and they're pretty incredible as far as stopping power goes....but it's mostly because they're BIGGER than the steel rotors. The big drawback to steel cross-drilled rotors is fade/warping, because brake dust gets lodged in the holes and prevents proper cooling. This does not happen with the ceramics because there is no brake dust. However....I've still gotten PCCB's to smoke, and still gotten them to fade. The best rotors on the market, for almost any application, are slotted steel rotors. Ceramics cost a fortune to replace, and with the case of both Porsche and Ferraris, people are finding out they really don't have the life they are supposed to have, especially if tracking the car.
As far as the RMS goes....I've seen maybe two gt3/rs's out of 30+ that I've transacted that DIDN'T need the rear main seal replaced. However...it's a warranty item, so not something to really be overly concerned about for the next few years. Just make sure you get a car that doesn't have excessive overrevs as the dealer may refuse to replace the RMS under warranty if the car has been abused.
All that being said.....check out the white one we have.
#15
12-09-2009, 03:02 PM
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary/VB
Posts: 291
Baron, I agree with your analogy on the 930...It was pushing 400rwhp, here's the build process if you're interested. Winter Project almost done - Pelican Parts Technical BBS
It was a great 3 yr project but just time for something new. I have had the GT3RS as a screen saver since it was launched. Might not be the most practical but its the one I've had my eye on....so nows the time
Ive heard that the PCCBs are expensive to replace, but I would assume once they need to be replaced you can switch to steel at that time?
It was a great 3 yr project but just time for something new. I have had the GT3RS as a screen saver since it was launched. Might not be the most practical but its the one I've had my eye on....so nows the time
Ive heard that the PCCBs are expensive to replace, but I would assume once they need to be replaced you can switch to steel at that time?
#16
12-09-2009, 03:30 PM
Have you guys that are knocking RS's owned/driven them?
They are not humongous, heavy, or quiet. That would be describing a GT2 or Turbo.....the GT3/rs won't even pass the sound restriction at Laguna when in Sport mode.
Seriously, the RS is an incredible car, very balanced, and refined enough to drive on the street, but a monster on the track.
As far as replacing rotors....the PCCB's are a bit over-hyped. Yes, they're great because you don't get brake dust, and they're pretty incredible as far as stopping power goes....but it's mostly because they're BIGGER than the steel rotors. The big drawback to steel cross-drilled rotors is fade/warping, because brake dust gets lodged in the holes and prevents proper cooling. This does not happen with the ceramics because there is no brake dust. However....I've still gotten PCCB's to smoke, and still gotten them to fade. The best rotors on the market, for almost any application, are slotted steel rotors. Ceramics cost a fortune to replace, and with the case of both Porsche and Ferraris, people are finding out they really don't have the life they are supposed to have, especially if tracking the car.
As far as the RMS goes....I've seen maybe two gt3/rs's out of 30+ that I've transacted that DIDN'T need the rear main seal replaced. However...it's a warranty item, so not something to really be overly concerned about for the next few years. Just make sure you get a car that doesn't have excessive overrevs as the dealer may refuse to replace the RMS under warranty if the car has been abused.
All that being said.....check out the white one we have.
They are not humongous, heavy, or quiet. That would be describing a GT2 or Turbo.....the GT3/rs won't even pass the sound restriction at Laguna when in Sport mode.
Seriously, the RS is an incredible car, very balanced, and refined enough to drive on the street, but a monster on the track.
As far as replacing rotors....the PCCB's are a bit over-hyped. Yes, they're great because you don't get brake dust, and they're pretty incredible as far as stopping power goes....but it's mostly because they're BIGGER than the steel rotors. The big drawback to steel cross-drilled rotors is fade/warping, because brake dust gets lodged in the holes and prevents proper cooling. This does not happen with the ceramics because there is no brake dust. However....I've still gotten PCCB's to smoke, and still gotten them to fade. The best rotors on the market, for almost any application, are slotted steel rotors. Ceramics cost a fortune to replace, and with the case of both Porsche and Ferraris, people are finding out they really don't have the life they are supposed to have, especially if tracking the car.
As far as the RMS goes....I've seen maybe two gt3/rs's out of 30+ that I've transacted that DIDN'T need the rear main seal replaced. However...it's a warranty item, so not something to really be overly concerned about for the next few years. Just make sure you get a car that doesn't have excessive overrevs as the dealer may refuse to replace the RMS under warranty if the car has been abused.
All that being said.....check out the white one we have.
as far as PCCB's, they're 4k each, and they suck on the track
rms ur dead on
and ur white one is quite pretty...
#17
12-09-2009, 04:34 PM
owned a gt3(996) driven an rs(997) on the track, would take the gt3 ne day, although the rs styling is vastly superior, and yea it is humongous, quiet, and feels like a street car(heavy), the rs is a poser car, just like the gt2 lol gt2 is just a lighter rwd turbo with bigger blowers, internals all the same
as far as PCCB's, they're 4k each, and they suck on the track
rms ur dead on
and ur white one is quite pretty...
as far as PCCB's, they're 4k each, and they suck on the track
rms ur dead on
and ur white one is quite pretty...
Any person that owns a real race car thinks homologations are heavy pigs (for good reason). For the majority of people though, comparing it to other street cars, the RS is a light, agile, equipped track car. Maybe not compared to a Cup car or a Lotus, but compared to a GT2, turbo, z06, gtr, r8, m3, etc etc etc.
#18
12-09-2009, 04:44 PM
Ha...I should've known you own a Cup car
Any person that owns a real race car thinks homologations are heavy pigs (for good reason). For the majority of people though, comparing it to other street cars, the RS is a light, agile, equipped track car. Maybe not compared to a Cup car or a Lotus, but compared to a GT2, turbo, z06, gtr, r8, m3, etc etc etc.
Any person that owns a real race car thinks homologations are heavy pigs (for good reason). For the majority of people though, comparing it to other street cars, the RS is a light, agile, equipped track car. Maybe not compared to a Cup car or a Lotus, but compared to a GT2, turbo, z06, gtr, r8, m3, etc etc etc.
but even the 04 gt3 street i had with re-valved shocks felt more agile imo, with the porsche set-up theyre absolutely dreadful though
