Best All-Season Daily Daily Driver Under $100k?
Jan 25, 2012 | 07:25 AM
#152
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From: Chicago, Illinois
The answer relies heavily on one's location.
Munich and Belgium get snow like St. Louis gets snow, which is to say, not that much.
If you live where I live, you're at a serious disadvantage gimping around in a RWD or FWD 'car'. You're going to sit and wait for plows with frequency. Trust me, I've driven every type of vehicle here. Can you do it? Sure... Why deal with it?
I also own a 550ix M Sport.. great car for Chicago, Munich, Belgium or anywhere else that sees limited snowfall amounts, including Minneapolis if we don't experience any large storms.
If you frequent 'real' snow country (ie the U.P. of Michigan with > 25' of annual snowfall) like I do, you simply must have a 'truck'. There is no chance in hell you are getting around for the majority of the winter season in a RWD, FWD, and often in an AWD car. Snow tires or not. It's ground clearance.
SUV's also tow more, offer 3rd row seating and/or large dimensional cargo capability.
Besides showing how large our penises are (WTF?), there really are practical reasons to own something other than 'a car'.
BTW, nobody with female friends drives a wagon in the U.S.A.
Munich and Belgium get snow like St. Louis gets snow, which is to say, not that much.
If you live where I live, you're at a serious disadvantage gimping around in a RWD or FWD 'car'. You're going to sit and wait for plows with frequency. Trust me, I've driven every type of vehicle here. Can you do it? Sure... Why deal with it?
I also own a 550ix M Sport.. great car for Chicago, Munich, Belgium or anywhere else that sees limited snowfall amounts, including Minneapolis if we don't experience any large storms.
If you frequent 'real' snow country (ie the U.P. of Michigan with > 25' of annual snowfall) like I do, you simply must have a 'truck'. There is no chance in hell you are getting around for the majority of the winter season in a RWD, FWD, and often in an AWD car. Snow tires or not. It's ground clearance.
SUV's also tow more, offer 3rd row seating and/or large dimensional cargo capability.
Besides showing how large our penises are (WTF?), there really are practical reasons to own something other than 'a car'.
BTW, nobody with female friends drives a wagon in the U.S.A.
Jan 25, 2012 | 08:24 AM
#153
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Posts: 7,647
From: Munich,Germany
I totally agree on your arguments,...and that being said, I still stand by my previous post since most of the people in the 100k car market live in urban/suburban areas and would not really need an AWD car/truck.
But the plus on safety and traction is never a bad thing,so I can understand people opting for awd cars
btw...If you drive even just half an hour south of Munich you definitely get a lot more than just a bit of snow...so it`s not like people here can drive their cars because there is not that much snow but because they learned how to handle it and where to put on snow chains if shit gets ugly(when going skiing etc)
@astonmartin
your arguments are still crap...
you live in Chicago,get over it
and even if you can accelerate better in snow...does your oh so magical AWD improve the stopping distance in snow magically by a few feet?
No..
with or without awd,you have to drive carefully in snow
I guess you`ve just not enough driving experience to think about what might happen in the very next second
better grip,definitely
better cornering,yep
shorter stopping distance - no!
But the plus on safety and traction is never a bad thing,so I can understand people opting for awd cars
btw...If you drive even just half an hour south of Munich you definitely get a lot more than just a bit of snow...so it`s not like people here can drive their cars because there is not that much snow but because they learned how to handle it and where to put on snow chains if shit gets ugly(when going skiing etc)
@astonmartin
your arguments are still crap...
you live in Chicago,get over it
and even if you can accelerate better in snow...does your oh so magical AWD improve the stopping distance in snow magically by a few feet?
No..
with or without awd,you have to drive carefully in snow
I guess you`ve just not enough driving experience to think about what might happen in the very next second
better grip,definitely
better cornering,yep
shorter stopping distance - no!
Jan 25, 2012 | 10:53 AM
#154
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Posts: 306
From: Seattle/Maltby/Chelan
Chevrolet Tahoe. And with $100k, I could buy two.
I don't need my DD to be the fastest thing on the road. That's what I have a motorcycle for. I'd much rather have a DD that will do everything and do it well, and the Tahoe fits that bill.
Winter driving
Off road situations
Towing
People hauling
Cargo capacity
Whatever else the world wants to throw at it.
I don't need my DD to be the fastest thing on the road. That's what I have a motorcycle for. I'd much rather have a DD that will do everything and do it well, and the Tahoe fits that bill.
Winter driving
Off road situations
Towing
People hauling
Cargo capacity
Whatever else the world wants to throw at it.
Last edited by Scootypuff Jr.; Jan 25, 2012 at 11:02 AM.
Jan 25, 2012 | 11:38 AM
#155
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 8,638
From: In a dream....please don't wake me
Chevrolet Tahoe. And with $100k, I could buy two.
I don't need my DD to be the fastest thing on the road. That's what I have a motorcycle for. I'd much rather have a DD that will do everything and do it well, and the Tahoe fits that bill.
Winter driving
Off road situations
Towing
People hauling
Cargo capacity
Whatever else the world wants to throw at it.
I don't need my DD to be the fastest thing on the road. That's what I have a motorcycle for. I'd much rather have a DD that will do everything and do it well, and the Tahoe fits that bill.
Winter driving
Off road situations
Towing
People hauling
Cargo capacity
Whatever else the world wants to throw at it.
We love ours. $45k new. Nuffield said
Jan 25, 2012 | 12:05 PM
#158
I need pos rep like Hulkamania NOW!
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,348
From: Madison Wisconsin
If one is spending 100K for a daily car the price of gas is somewhat irrevelant.
Jan 25, 2012 | 12:14 PM
#160
I need pos rep like Hulkamania NOW!
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,348
From: Madison Wisconsin
The answer relies heavily on one's location.
Munich and Belgium get snow like St. Louis gets snow, which is to say, not that much.
If you live where I live, you're at a serious disadvantage gimping around in a RWD or FWD 'car'. You're going to sit and wait for plows with frequency. Trust me, I've driven every type of vehicle here. Can you do it? Sure... Why deal with it?
I also own a 550ix M Sport.. great car for Chicago, Munich, Belgium or anywhere else that sees limited snowfall amounts, including Minneapolis if we don't experience any large storms.
If you frequent 'real' snow country (ie the U.P. of Michigan with > 25' of annual snowfall) like I do, you simply must have a 'truck'. There is no chance in hell you are getting around for the majority of the winter season in a RWD, FWD, and often in an AWD car. Snow tires or not. It's ground clearance.
SUV's also tow more, offer 3rd row seating and/or large dimensional cargo capability.
Besides showing how large our penises are (WTF?), there really are practical reasons to own something other than 'a car'.
BTW, nobody with female friends drives a wagon in the U.S.A.
Munich and Belgium get snow like St. Louis gets snow, which is to say, not that much.
If you live where I live, you're at a serious disadvantage gimping around in a RWD or FWD 'car'. You're going to sit and wait for plows with frequency. Trust me, I've driven every type of vehicle here. Can you do it? Sure... Why deal with it?
I also own a 550ix M Sport.. great car for Chicago, Munich, Belgium or anywhere else that sees limited snowfall amounts, including Minneapolis if we don't experience any large storms.
If you frequent 'real' snow country (ie the U.P. of Michigan with > 25' of annual snowfall) like I do, you simply must have a 'truck'. There is no chance in hell you are getting around for the majority of the winter season in a RWD, FWD, and often in an AWD car. Snow tires or not. It's ground clearance.
SUV's also tow more, offer 3rd row seating and/or large dimensional cargo capability.
Besides showing how large our penises are (WTF?), there really are practical reasons to own something other than 'a car'.
BTW, nobody with female friends drives a wagon in the U.S.A.
You live in Chicago. Man up.
Last edited by Brobbins016; Jan 25, 2012 at 12:16 PM.