Invoice price
#1
11-14-2009, 10:57 PM
Invoice price
What is the invoice on a Panamera 4S?
One web site says that the MSRP is $93,800.00 and it has an invoice of $84,240.00 without destination.
Others say the invoice is $79,730. That would mean invoice is 15% down from MSRP rather than the typical 11%. Maybe they have taken the $3,000-$4,000 dealer hold back off the invoice to get down to $79,730?
One web site says that the MSRP is $93,800.00 and it has an invoice of $84,240.00 without destination.
Others say the invoice is $79,730. That would mean invoice is 15% down from MSRP rather than the typical 11%. Maybe they have taken the $3,000-$4,000 dealer hold back off the invoice to get down to $79,730?
#2
11-15-2009, 01:28 PM
What is the invoice on a Panamera 4S?
One web site says that the MSRP is $93,800.00 and it has an invoice of $84,240.00 without destination.
Others say the invoice is $79,730. That would mean invoice is 15% down from MSRP rather than the typical 11%. Maybe they have taken the $3,000-$4,000 dealer hold back off the invoice to get down to $79,730?
One web site says that the MSRP is $93,800.00 and it has an invoice of $84,240.00 without destination.
Others say the invoice is $79,730. That would mean invoice is 15% down from MSRP rather than the typical 11%. Maybe they have taken the $3,000-$4,000 dealer hold back off the invoice to get down to $79,730?
#4
11-15-2009, 02:40 PM
What is the invoice on a Panamera 4S?
One web site says that the MSRP is $93,800.00 and it has an invoice of $84,240.00 without destination.
Others say the invoice is $79,730. That would mean invoice is 15% down from MSRP rather than the typical 11%. Maybe they have taken the $3,000-$4,000 dealer hold back off the invoice to get down to $79,730?
One web site says that the MSRP is $93,800.00 and it has an invoice of $84,240.00 without destination.
Others say the invoice is $79,730. That would mean invoice is 15% down from MSRP rather than the typical 11%. Maybe they have taken the $3,000-$4,000 dealer hold back off the invoice to get down to $79,730?
#9
11-16-2009, 09:47 AM
There are a couple factors that dictate what the profit margin is of each dealer. One, do they qualify for having or are in the process of building a 'compliant facility'. (new building that meets PCNA/PAG requirments for franchises. Two, do they fulfill their CSI requirements?
Each dealership is NOT created equally in Porsche's eyes. However they changed their profit margin structure in 2008. Instead of giving the dealership the full 15%, the dealer needs to hit the other two variables. So at worst, they have 10% markup in the car. This is of course not to the penny b/c each option on each car has a different markup from the factory. Some have 10.2% markup, while others boast a 15.5% mark up. It really depends.
- And to the comment about dealerships NOT selling cars, I'd say this: Now that we're sitting in Q4 versus Q1 realize that inventories, not just for Porsche, but MB, BMW, Audi ect have been DRASTICALLY reduced. Porsche lowered their 'incentive money' and, if inventory levels continue this trend; they'll reduce it further if not completely do away with it. Now, the current program on 2009 997 and mid engine product is thru the 4th of January- is doing well. And if Porsche see's fit, they can change the program. It's their program, not ours.
Are ALL dealers sitting in the same position? NO. Some are doing better jobs at selling their inventory then others. And just because you roll on the lot and see a lot of 2009 997's sitting around doesn't neccessarily mean that 'that' particular dealership is doing a bad job selling. Some dealership are buying other dealerships inventories. Which is a true tale sign that certain dealers are going down.
Regardless- you can get a fantastic deal on a new 911 or mid engined car. They are fantastic machines. But don't take my word for it. Just ask any Porsche owner.
Hope that helps.
Each dealership is NOT created equally in Porsche's eyes. However they changed their profit margin structure in 2008. Instead of giving the dealership the full 15%, the dealer needs to hit the other two variables. So at worst, they have 10% markup in the car. This is of course not to the penny b/c each option on each car has a different markup from the factory. Some have 10.2% markup, while others boast a 15.5% mark up. It really depends.
- And to the comment about dealerships NOT selling cars, I'd say this: Now that we're sitting in Q4 versus Q1 realize that inventories, not just for Porsche, but MB, BMW, Audi ect have been DRASTICALLY reduced. Porsche lowered their 'incentive money' and, if inventory levels continue this trend; they'll reduce it further if not completely do away with it. Now, the current program on 2009 997 and mid engine product is thru the 4th of January- is doing well. And if Porsche see's fit, they can change the program. It's their program, not ours.
Are ALL dealers sitting in the same position? NO. Some are doing better jobs at selling their inventory then others. And just because you roll on the lot and see a lot of 2009 997's sitting around doesn't neccessarily mean that 'that' particular dealership is doing a bad job selling. Some dealership are buying other dealerships inventories. Which is a true tale sign that certain dealers are going down.
Regardless- you can get a fantastic deal on a new 911 or mid engined car. They are fantastic machines. But don't take my word for it. Just ask any Porsche owner.
Hope that helps.