Service Questions
Mar 16, 2011 | 10:29 PM
#41
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Now stig and barrister you guys make sense!!! Hearing $19,000 to pull a motor out or $16,000 for a small part gets me. Thats all. I drove a 2002 360 and fell in love with how it felt, sounds is just great! I love how the 360 Stradale looks I will drive a 430 and we will see.
Last edited by Steven997GT2; Mar 16, 2011 at 10:32 PM.
Mar 16, 2011 | 11:30 PM
#45
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Woops forgot I quoted this. This is a legit number I think on some 360 coupes. My dads 2k mile 360 spider was well under 100k almost 2 years ago.
WTH do you know anyway.
I don't think I ever talked with anyone about their 355 that didn't just consider new manifolds and all the extra fixes as part of their first major service so that figure is tossed around all the time and was/is pretty accurate for most likely every 355 that ever left Ferrari's factory. Are a lot of them upgraded by now? Yes I'd believe so but I still think they are money hungry cars in the service department.
I've never owned a 355 and most likely will never own a 355 so I'm glad I don't have to deal with those figures.
I've decided no mechanic can be trusted and I'm going to do all of my services myself. Does anyone know where to buy tools?
Stig don't you have some tracking to do?
360 does not require engine removal for its major service or belt replacement, it can be properly done in the car.
355 timing belt service done correctly and all fluids/cam indexing will run you 5-7k providing there are not unexpected surprises such as manifolds, clutch, F1 concerns. Unfortunatly many times the additional items just get included and the true cost of a major service gets exagerated.
430 service alternates between two levels based on time or mileage and they alternate every other year between $800-$900 for the lowest level and $1800 for the larger of the two service. tires, brakes and other consumables would be additional. When comparing services make sure you are comparing apples to apples many shops will low ball and only do partial services or only bleed the calipers and not the abs and traction control circuits.
Right Mark?
355 timing belt service done correctly and all fluids/cam indexing will run you 5-7k providing there are not unexpected surprises such as manifolds, clutch, F1 concerns. Unfortunatly many times the additional items just get included and the true cost of a major service gets exagerated.
430 service alternates between two levels based on time or mileage and they alternate every other year between $800-$900 for the lowest level and $1800 for the larger of the two service. tires, brakes and other consumables would be additional. When comparing services make sure you are comparing apples to apples many shops will low ball and only do partial services or only bleed the calipers and not the abs and traction control circuits.
Right Mark?
I don't think I ever talked with anyone about their 355 that didn't just consider new manifolds and all the extra fixes as part of their first major service so that figure is tossed around all the time and was/is pretty accurate for most likely every 355 that ever left Ferrari's factory. Are a lot of them upgraded by now? Yes I'd believe so but I still think they are money hungry cars in the service department.
I've never owned a 355 and most likely will never own a 355 so I'm glad I don't have to deal with those figures.
I've decided no mechanic can be trusted and I'm going to do all of my services myself. Does anyone know where to buy tools?
Stig don't you have some tracking to do?
Last edited by h20skier; Mar 16, 2011 at 11:38 PM.
Mar 16, 2011 | 11:30 PM
#46
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These two cars are so different. You really need to decide what you want out of a car before pulling that trigger.
Mar 16, 2011 | 11:36 PM
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Dana sorry it's not red or 70k but close 2000 Ferrari 360 for Sale - 918887 - duPontREGISTRY.com
Mar 16, 2011 | 11:40 PM
#49
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Both cars are great choices, the Scud should still be in warranty. Given similar use the maint. on the cars over say 6 years ,which would include two timing belt services on the 360, service is going to be about $6-8k less on the Scud. Now if the car experiences a unexpected failure, actuator for example, this can quickly change. Tracking the cars hard can move the costs in favor of the Stradale as the tires and brakes on the scud are a bit more expensive.
Stradale has been a pretty bulletproof car. The rare actuator failure is usually caused by missadjustment or incorrect fluid being used in the system. Simply throwing in any old dextron ATF will make a headache quickly. Otherwise they are trouble free and are easily rebuilt if you have access to a good hydraulic parts supplier that can match up the needed seals.
The Scud has seen some e-diff and gearbox failure under very hard use but all of these failures I have seen or spoken with other techicians about involved fluid changes to brands other than the Shell product. I have not been involved in teardown of these boxes so I cannot confirm cause of the failures but all involved synchros and e-diff clutches, I suspect it is a lubrication/compatibility/additive concern.
The most important thing to get done is PPI the car with a reputable service person/shop that knows these cars and where to look for the typical concerns, get a car with know service history and records to back it up. Both cars are available with several power warranty options if purchased through a dealer and are renewable on a annual basis which will cover most of the big ticket failures. Feel free to PM me with any direct questions or PPI arrangements.
Stradale has been a pretty bulletproof car. The rare actuator failure is usually caused by missadjustment or incorrect fluid being used in the system. Simply throwing in any old dextron ATF will make a headache quickly. Otherwise they are trouble free and are easily rebuilt if you have access to a good hydraulic parts supplier that can match up the needed seals.
The Scud has seen some e-diff and gearbox failure under very hard use but all of these failures I have seen or spoken with other techicians about involved fluid changes to brands other than the Shell product. I have not been involved in teardown of these boxes so I cannot confirm cause of the failures but all involved synchros and e-diff clutches, I suspect it is a lubrication/compatibility/additive concern.
The most important thing to get done is PPI the car with a reputable service person/shop that knows these cars and where to look for the typical concerns, get a car with know service history and records to back it up. Both cars are available with several power warranty options if purchased through a dealer and are renewable on a annual basis which will cover most of the big ticket failures. Feel free to PM me with any direct questions or PPI arrangements.
Mar 16, 2011 | 11:46 PM
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