Newbie question - Scud vs F430
#1
Newbie question - Scud vs F430
Hi, all.
In advance, thank you for your help.
I am in the process of researching my first Ferrari .
I am in a bit of a quandry, however. I originally had settled on an F430, but really, REALLY like the idea of a Scuderia.
My new car will definitely NOT be a garage queen - it will be used, and used for the odd long distance drive (800km+).
I'm thinking an F430 would be more than OK for such a drive, but what about a Scud? With the reduced sound deadening in the car, and an already louder exhaust, would I be making a huge mistake? I can put up with a lot (have replaced the exhaust on my current car - 2009 M3, with an Akrapovic full titanium, high-flow cats), but I'm thinking a Scud would be on an entirely different level of volume. I'm not looking for a cushy-mobile by any means, but 8 hours in a Scud might just be a little much?
How about the smoothness of the transmission? Ideally, if anyone has driven F430/Scud/M3 with DCT for comparison sake, I would love to hear from you. I'm thinking the single clutch F1 tranny is slightly more abrupt than BMW's dual-clutch layout, but I'd like to hear from someone with experience of both, if possible!
Thanks again. I'd really appreciate any help. I am vascillating between Scud and F430, on an almost daily basis! (And, to make matter worse, I keep looking at Gallardos and wondering.... )
In advance, thank you for your help.
I am in the process of researching my first Ferrari .
I am in a bit of a quandry, however. I originally had settled on an F430, but really, REALLY like the idea of a Scuderia.
My new car will definitely NOT be a garage queen - it will be used, and used for the odd long distance drive (800km+).
I'm thinking an F430 would be more than OK for such a drive, but what about a Scud? With the reduced sound deadening in the car, and an already louder exhaust, would I be making a huge mistake? I can put up with a lot (have replaced the exhaust on my current car - 2009 M3, with an Akrapovic full titanium, high-flow cats), but I'm thinking a Scud would be on an entirely different level of volume. I'm not looking for a cushy-mobile by any means, but 8 hours in a Scud might just be a little much?
How about the smoothness of the transmission? Ideally, if anyone has driven F430/Scud/M3 with DCT for comparison sake, I would love to hear from you. I'm thinking the single clutch F1 tranny is slightly more abrupt than BMW's dual-clutch layout, but I'd like to hear from someone with experience of both, if possible!
Thanks again. I'd really appreciate any help. I am vascillating between Scud and F430, on an almost daily basis! (And, to make matter worse, I keep looking at Gallardos and wondering.... )
#4
Absolutely certain. While I will be taking SOME longer trips, the car will primarily be for entertainment. I will be tracking it on occasion - albeit infrequently.
Thanks!
Thanks!
#5
Scud you won't like if you frequent 500 mile drives. I don't mind it and am ok with it but the seats will make your wife and girlfriend no longer your wife or girlfriend.
Occassional track days means 1 time per year. 430 more than ample.
Long trips 430 better than scud
Short fun trips with the sexiest Ferrari ever made? Scud wins
While the Scud is a fantastic beast the exhaust note is not what will be bothering you after 500 miles /800k. Your ass and back will be. The 430 seats are comfortable and are fantastic for long trips even if you have daytona's.
My 2 cents which is now 1.2cents in today's economy is buy the 430 and save the bucks for the wine when you get there.
Occassional track days means 1 time per year. 430 more than ample.
Long trips 430 better than scud
Short fun trips with the sexiest Ferrari ever made? Scud wins
While the Scud is a fantastic beast the exhaust note is not what will be bothering you after 500 miles /800k. Your ass and back will be. The 430 seats are comfortable and are fantastic for long trips even if you have daytona's.
My 2 cents which is now 1.2cents in today's economy is buy the 430 and save the bucks for the wine when you get there.
#6
I was under the impression that you had to be a certain number of Ferrari models in order to qualify for a Scuderia.
but
I'd go with the F430, and keep the luxury of the interior and soft seats but do a bit of aftermarket modifying and power enhancements to the same standard as the Suderia. that way you have the best of both worlds.
but
I'd go with the F430, and keep the luxury of the interior and soft seats but do a bit of aftermarket modifying and power enhancements to the same standard as the Suderia. that way you have the best of both worlds.
#7
Scud you won't like if you frequent 500 mile drives. I don't mind it and am ok with it but the seats will make your wife and girlfriend no longer your wife or girlfriend.
Occassional track days means 1 time per year. 430 more than ample.
Long trips 430 better than scud
Short fun trips with the sexiest Ferrari ever made? Scud wins
While the Scud is a fantastic beast the exhaust note is not what will be bothering you after 500 miles /800k. Your ass and back will be. The 430 seats are comfortable and are fantastic for long trips even if you have daytona's.
My 2 cents which is now 1.2cents in today's economy is buy the 430 and save the bucks for the wine when you get there.
Occassional track days means 1 time per year. 430 more than ample.
Long trips 430 better than scud
Short fun trips with the sexiest Ferrari ever made? Scud wins
While the Scud is a fantastic beast the exhaust note is not what will be bothering you after 500 miles /800k. Your ass and back will be. The 430 seats are comfortable and are fantastic for long trips even if you have daytona's.
My 2 cents which is now 1.2cents in today's economy is buy the 430 and save the bucks for the wine when you get there.
"My two cents which is now 1.2 cents in today's economy".... LOL. No kidding.
Cheers!!
#8
Well I can tell you I have done several long distance trips in a f430 spider and in a 456 m gt. I can tell u that both cars are exhausting to drive, which i think is quite normal in a car like this. but i think the 430 is not a bad gt car. considering the exhaust noise just put it in wet mode and the valve won't open unless u really push it...considering the seats i can tell u - might sound weird - that the racing seats (contrarily to those in the scuderia) are very comfortable because of their perfect fit, i even think they are more comfortable then those in the 456...
Anyways u will have to accept that shifting is no comparison to a dct box, especially when u shift around middle rev range under normal throttle use it won't shift really smooth in the sense of a dct box, but this should be the same in both cars
Anyways u will have to accept that shifting is no comparison to a dct box, especially when u shift around middle rev range under normal throttle use it won't shift really smooth in the sense of a dct box, but this should be the same in both cars