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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JonA85
RufMD had a F50, he also owns a F40 and CGT. He soon sold the F50.
Yes I saw his beautiful collection here on TS.

Only difference was that SPG993TT took his time and answered the question when asked. Always glad that owners like him are willing to share their experience with others on the internet.

I am always curious about the difference between the two simply because I don’t have the money to own neither of them. I had driven the CGT about 3 times. Out of the 3 times, once was at the track and 2 other times was on the street. I pretty much had nothing to compare to because this was the only super car I had EVER driven, and what a beast it was.

So despite the question may seem relatively stupid to some, it definitely given me an excellent insight as how the F50, my dream car, compares to a CGT.

The owner of the CGT is a good friend of mine and he told me that he once rode in a F50. Told me the car was a beast but never had the chance to drive it. Well I got my answer already, still a little disappointed that the F50 doesn’t live up to my expectation that it builds up over the years.

Hopefully will get to post some pictures of the CGT and track videos once he installs his new wheels.

Thanks again spg.
 

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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 06:40 AM
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Takumi don't forget the F50 is a 15 year old supercar and a more adequate comparison with the CGT would be its succesor, the Enzo.

With a cutting edge brand like Porsche, when they do a supercar like the CGT you can bet your money they won't build a car that isn't in almost every way more spectacular than a 10 year older supercar, the McLaren F1 maybe being the only exception.

The F50 will always mantain its iconic and exotic value but to think it's in any way a superior car than the CGT isn't realistic imo.
 
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Takumi
Only difference was that SPG993TT took his time and answered the question when asked. Always glad that owners like him are willing to share their experience with others on the internet.
I am sure if you asked RufMD he will be more then happy to share his experience. He is very nice and I have seen him answer all questions he is asked.
 
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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If I was in the position to buy one, it wouldn't matter that the F50 can't hang with the Enzo and CGT. 520hp and sub 3K pounds...that's fast enough for me. Heck, the 430 and GT3 are already plenty fast for road use (in the US, at least).

The Enzo and CGT are fantastic cars, but they really are way too powerful for sane road use. The F50 has supercar looks, a symphonic V12, an open top, great feeling non-power steering, manual trans, etc. It's brimming with character. Ever hear one with a Tubi? That's about as good as a car can sound, IMO.

The near state-of-the-art Enzo and CGT are better 'cars', of course, but the F50 is sort of the best of both worlds...old school supercar charm with semi-modern execution. A few years back, EVO magazine chose the F50 over the Enzo, F40 and 288 GTO. That's their opinion, of course, but it's one I can believe. Ideally, though, you need all four.
 

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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Scuderia is a great car but I definitely agree that the C-CGT is on another level.
 
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludas
Takumi don't forget the F50 is a 15 year old supercar and a more adequate comparison with the CGT would be its succesor, the Enzo.

With a cutting edge brand like Porsche, when they do a supercar like the CGT you can bet your money they won't build a car that isn't in almost every way more spectacular than a 10 year older supercar, the McLaren F1 maybe being the only exception.

The F50 will always mantain its iconic and exotic value but to think it's in any way a superior car than the CGT isn't realistic imo.

You are every bit correct about the F50 being a car that is 15 years older and it isn't a fair comparison in terms of performance.

However, my main question was which was more desirable, offers a higher driver's involvement, and excitement.

Over all, I don't think power is the only factor that should classify the car to be undesirable or unexciting to drive as most driving enthusiast here will agree. I thought my question was very direct regarding to the ownership and experience of it and not the power differences.

The way that the F50 was built with just the right amount of power, I was thinking of the word balance.

Anyways please don’t take this as any sort of argument. No flames intended but thank you of making a point.

Originally Posted by JonA85
I am sure if you asked RufMD he will be more then happy to share his experience. He is very nice and I have seen him answer all questions he is asked.
Yes I realize that he must be an extraordinary gentleman like you say. In fact I raised that question to him 2 times. Once PM and once on his F50 post.

However, the question was consistently avoided so I assumed that the question was not worth his time to answer.

Sometimes internet viewers like myself isn't fortunate enough to afford such toys, and as such, will have these type of questions to ask for those who are fortunate enough to own them.
 

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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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Of course I don't take is as a flame or anything, we're just discussing cars. Anyway I don't understand why you think my post was about power. In fact I didn't even use the word power a single time in my post.
You said it yourself, your question was about the ownership and experience. So by experience I thought you meant the cars driving experience. As I said in my post, when it comes to that I don't think the F50 in any way can compete with the CGT. And by "any way" I don't mean just the power.
 
Old Mar 15, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gah993
Scuderia is a great car but I definitely agree that the C-CGT is on another level.
The CGT isn't on another level. The CGT is a fantastic car but if I only had 1 I would choose the Scuderia.
 
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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Well I spent an evening in both of these thanks to ^ H20Skier ^.
My useless observations:
CGT - a fvcking symphony of quirks, mechanical chatters, the V10. It's an EXPERIENCE. You're in a cockpit. Involved. Scared. Overwhelmed.
Scud - An equally gorgeous exhaust note, but not so many other noises (which is okay!). An open cabin by comparison. More comfortable overall. Less intimidating. Approachable.

CGT is more wild and the over-engineered car. Scud is better to drive a few X/wk. Quite different but both OH SO visceral!!!!!
 
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