AP Questions
Sep 18, 2011 | 08:23 AM
#25
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I agree, he is very racist and as the proverb states "you cant teach an old dog new tricks". Ie. Once you have an Old habits its hard to adapt yourself. That being he has had a filthy mouth for years, it would be hard for him and his internet persona to switch to being a very nice person.
Sep 18, 2011 | 09:45 AM
#26
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some of these responses are a bit misleading so I'll step in.
The "Jumbo" (current ref 15202) uses a Jaeger designed movement that was in the original Royal Oak from 1972 (ref 5402). As produced by AP, it is called the 2120 in its base form (2121 w/date, as in Jumbo). This is considered one of the truly classic automatic movements in the industry. It is ultra thin and yet very robust and has a long history.
A few years, AP designed a brand new movement, the 3120 movement. Newly designed from the ground up, one of the main goals was to make it particularly robust and shock resistant. This movement is thicker than the 2121 and so an entirely new Royal Oak was made: the 15300. It is much sportier with a considerably thicker case, thicker bezel, and much thicker bracelet.
To say that one is better than the other or especially that one is junk is total nonsense. If you want modern and sporty, the 15300 is a better choice. If you want elegant with a taste of sport and a nod to history, the Jumbo is the way to go.
The price differential as it is now is a very recent phenomenon. I believe when the 15300 came out it was even more expensive than the Jaeger mov't pieces, but then a lot of demand sprang up for the throwback piece and AP produces very few at this point.
Hope that helps.
-Steve
The "Jumbo" (current ref 15202) uses a Jaeger designed movement that was in the original Royal Oak from 1972 (ref 5402). As produced by AP, it is called the 2120 in its base form (2121 w/date, as in Jumbo). This is considered one of the truly classic automatic movements in the industry. It is ultra thin and yet very robust and has a long history.
A few years, AP designed a brand new movement, the 3120 movement. Newly designed from the ground up, one of the main goals was to make it particularly robust and shock resistant. This movement is thicker than the 2121 and so an entirely new Royal Oak was made: the 15300. It is much sportier with a considerably thicker case, thicker bezel, and much thicker bracelet.
To say that one is better than the other or especially that one is junk is total nonsense. If you want modern and sporty, the 15300 is a better choice. If you want elegant with a taste of sport and a nod to history, the Jumbo is the way to go.
The price differential as it is now is a very recent phenomenon. I believe when the 15300 came out it was even more expensive than the Jaeger mov't pieces, but then a lot of demand sprang up for the throwback piece and AP produces very few at this point.
Hope that helps.
-Steve
Sep 18, 2011 | 12:48 PM
#28
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thanks. He wants 13.3 insured and shipped. Wont go any lower.
I found a couple that had sold for 10-11 but were made in the early 90s. This piece was made more recently.
Thanks Steve. Love getting as much info as possible. I wish I could find one to try on. I tried on the 15300 and loved it. From what I hear the 15202 is even more comfortable. I know I dislike the ROO's cause they are so big and bulky, and I know the 202 is even slimmer than 300 so I assume I will like it unless it feel to fragile?
I found a couple that had sold for 10-11 but were made in the early 90s. This piece was made more recently.
some of these responses are a bit misleading so I'll step in.
The "Jumbo" (current ref 15202) uses a Jaeger designed movement that was in the original Royal Oak from 1972 (ref 5402). As produced by AP, it is called the 2120 in its base form (2121 w/date, as in Jumbo). This is considered one of the truly classic automatic movements in the industry. It is ultra thin and yet very robust and has a long history.
A few years, AP designed a brand new movement, the 3120 movement. Newly designed from the ground up, one of the main goals was to make it particularly robust and shock resistant. This movement is thicker than the 2121 and so an entirely new Royal Oak was made: the 15300. It is much sportier with a considerably thicker case, thicker bezel, and much thicker bracelet.
To say that one is better than the other or especially that one is junk is total nonsense. If you want modern and sporty, the 15300 is a better choice. If you want elegant with a taste of sport and a nod to history, the Jumbo is the way to go.
The price differential as it is now is a very recent phenomenon. I believe when the 15300 came out it was even more expensive than the Jaeger mov't pieces, but then a lot of demand sprang up for the throwback piece and AP produces very few at this point.
Hope that helps.
-Steve
The "Jumbo" (current ref 15202) uses a Jaeger designed movement that was in the original Royal Oak from 1972 (ref 5402). As produced by AP, it is called the 2120 in its base form (2121 w/date, as in Jumbo). This is considered one of the truly classic automatic movements in the industry. It is ultra thin and yet very robust and has a long history.
A few years, AP designed a brand new movement, the 3120 movement. Newly designed from the ground up, one of the main goals was to make it particularly robust and shock resistant. This movement is thicker than the 2121 and so an entirely new Royal Oak was made: the 15300. It is much sportier with a considerably thicker case, thicker bezel, and much thicker bracelet.
To say that one is better than the other or especially that one is junk is total nonsense. If you want modern and sporty, the 15300 is a better choice. If you want elegant with a taste of sport and a nod to history, the Jumbo is the way to go.
The price differential as it is now is a very recent phenomenon. I believe when the 15300 came out it was even more expensive than the Jaeger mov't pieces, but then a lot of demand sprang up for the throwback piece and AP produces very few at this point.
Hope that helps.
-Steve
Sep 19, 2011 | 10:04 AM
#29
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Posts: 1,273
Thanks Steve. Love getting as much info as possible. I wish I could find one to try on. I tried on the 15300 and loved it. From what I hear the 15202 is even more comfortable. I know I dislike the ROO's cause they are so big and bulky, and I know the 202 is even slimmer than 300 so I assume I will like it unless it feel to fragile?
-Steve
