German Teamspeeders - help, please!
#21
I can't find any P-cars @ Hertz but Avis rents out Panny's, Cayennes and 911's.
Avis Autovermietung - Prestige Flotte
And here's a map with all the Avis locations which have Porsches:
http://www.avis.de/assets/pdf/DE_Sta...e_Prestige.pdf
Avis Autovermietung - Prestige Flotte
And here's a map with all the Avis locations which have Porsches:
http://www.avis.de/assets/pdf/DE_Sta...e_Prestige.pdf
Last edited by 4Wheels; Dec 1, 2009 at 06:59 AM. Reason: map added
#22
Hehe same thing happened to us in Slovenia this year; we had driven through the entire country once already without any fuss. Then on our way back they stopped us at this massive checkpoint literally 500 yards from the Austrian border.
This huuuge female cop (?) came up to the car and the conversation basically went like this:
Slovenizilla: Papers!
Us: hello officer, did we do anything wrong?
Slovenizilla: You did not see sign on motorway?
Us: well yes actually but we're from Holland you see and oddly enough can't read Slovenia-speak. (there are some signs about 'vignettas' along the highway but not a single one is in English/German or whatever)
Slovenizilla: That is your problem, you must pay fine now, 300 Euros!
So we actually haggled them down to 150 (deal!) but the whole thing was very unnerving. You have to fill out a bunch of forms which are all in Slovenian or whatever their language is and they take pics of your car from every angle possible. To top it off, all this is done by some kind of private security company, not a government agency.
There was this German bloke next to us who got pulled over for not having a vignette too. But when he was at the van where you have to pay the fine (in cash, otherwise biiiiiiiiiiiig problem mister) they also showed him a bunch of pics of him speeding in Slovenia that day. He had to pay over €1k.
In the vid you can see the unlucky German's Zafira and notice the line of people at the white van in the background, all paying at least a couple of hundred €€€'s. Ka-ching!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-vBhDuQ7M
This huuuge female cop (?) came up to the car and the conversation basically went like this:
Slovenizilla: Papers!
Us: hello officer, did we do anything wrong?
Slovenizilla: You did not see sign on motorway?
Us: well yes actually but we're from Holland you see and oddly enough can't read Slovenia-speak. (there are some signs about 'vignettas' along the highway but not a single one is in English/German or whatever)
Slovenizilla: That is your problem, you must pay fine now, 300 Euros!
So we actually haggled them down to 150 (deal!) but the whole thing was very unnerving. You have to fill out a bunch of forms which are all in Slovenian or whatever their language is and they take pics of your car from every angle possible. To top it off, all this is done by some kind of private security company, not a government agency.
There was this German bloke next to us who got pulled over for not having a vignette too. But when he was at the van where you have to pay the fine (in cash, otherwise biiiiiiiiiiiig problem mister) they also showed him a bunch of pics of him speeding in Slovenia that day. He had to pay over €1k.
In the vid you can see the unlucky German's Zafira and notice the line of people at the white van in the background, all paying at least a couple of hundred €€€'s. Ka-ching!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-vBhDuQ7M
well....but what can one do?
If you are unwilling to pay you might get in great trouble and your trip/vacation can not be continued as well..
those highway/border cops stink...

I guess they don`t even like their co workers or themselves - lol
You already got the best answers and inside knowledge from ECB. Germany is NOT a vacation country, except for the few and far inbetween Amis (as US visitors are called in a friendly way).
Plus +1 on Avis for larfge rental company and best cars election whithout going with a shadey, small exotics rental place.
Traffic in the summer however can be a nightmare in germany. Germany is stretched North to South and presents for most bordering countries the fastest route South. So not only do you have ze Germanies rushing to leave the homeland (Germans are the largest visiting group in Italy, Spain, France, Austria and Switzerland) during July/August but also our fine neighbors in the Netherlands, Belgium, ze Norse countries and now the Eastern Eaurpean countries who try to make their way South through Germany. Traffic jams of 30-40 miles are not "unheard off"
Unless you have a clear plan on where to go North of Baden Wuerttemberg and Bayern, the two souther staes, DON'T DO IT. You got all what you want to see for a vacation trip in the SOuth and much closer by. If you start heading North you will waste a lot of time travelling from place to place.
Black Forest used to be great for spirited driving but especially on the weekend cannot be recommended anymore. Many fu roads either closed or heavily patroled by Police, not recommended for the "visitor". Unless you just cruise and take in the sights, only hit it during the week to avoid the pesky Polizei.
Don't know for sure how long you plan to stay. My recommendation for a nice loop of the South starting Stuttgart:
Baden-Baden
then heading South through the Black Forest (use all back roads)
to
Singen (Auto-Salon)
Konstanz, take car ferry to
Meersburg, have lunch there.
drive along Bodensee (Lake of Constance) to
Bregenz (Austria) from there go to
Appenzell (most rustic and authentic Kanton/Caounty of Switzerland) and have some cheese fondue or Racquelette (Cheese molten at a wood fire).
Then go to Thusis to enter Via Mala (translation "Bad Road" built by the Romans throught he Alps). You can do some sightseeing there.
then take the
San Bernardino pass to go to the
Italian Lake country of Lago Maggiore, Lago di Como etc, your pick, can't go wrong with either, best food you will ever eat.
From there head to
Chamonix and the Mont Blanc (you have to drive though the tunnel, amazing, hand cut through the rock, was for a very long time the longest tunnel in the world).
Start your loop back through Lausanne/ Lake of Geneva to
Bern and then Basel to enter back into the South of Germany.
I would take the Autobahn from Stuttgart to Baden-Baden, so you can check that off your list and then stay on county roads, which there should be one almost everywhere parallel to the highway. then when you come back get on the Autobahn in Singen and abck to Stuttgart, should all be unrestricted and fairly low traffic to blow out the end of your tour. Just distance wise you could probably do this whole tour in 3-4 days without sightseeing and stops.
Plus +1 on Avis for larfge rental company and best cars election whithout going with a shadey, small exotics rental place.
Traffic in the summer however can be a nightmare in germany. Germany is stretched North to South and presents for most bordering countries the fastest route South. So not only do you have ze Germanies rushing to leave the homeland (Germans are the largest visiting group in Italy, Spain, France, Austria and Switzerland) during July/August but also our fine neighbors in the Netherlands, Belgium, ze Norse countries and now the Eastern Eaurpean countries who try to make their way South through Germany. Traffic jams of 30-40 miles are not "unheard off"

Unless you have a clear plan on where to go North of Baden Wuerttemberg and Bayern, the two souther staes, DON'T DO IT. You got all what you want to see for a vacation trip in the SOuth and much closer by. If you start heading North you will waste a lot of time travelling from place to place.
Black Forest used to be great for spirited driving but especially on the weekend cannot be recommended anymore. Many fu roads either closed or heavily patroled by Police, not recommended for the "visitor". Unless you just cruise and take in the sights, only hit it during the week to avoid the pesky Polizei.
Don't know for sure how long you plan to stay. My recommendation for a nice loop of the South starting Stuttgart:
Baden-Baden
then heading South through the Black Forest (use all back roads)
to
Singen (Auto-Salon)
Konstanz, take car ferry to
Meersburg, have lunch there.
drive along Bodensee (Lake of Constance) to
Bregenz (Austria) from there go to
Appenzell (most rustic and authentic Kanton/Caounty of Switzerland) and have some cheese fondue or Racquelette (Cheese molten at a wood fire).
Then go to Thusis to enter Via Mala (translation "Bad Road" built by the Romans throught he Alps). You can do some sightseeing there.
then take the
San Bernardino pass to go to the
Italian Lake country of Lago Maggiore, Lago di Como etc, your pick, can't go wrong with either, best food you will ever eat.
From there head to
Chamonix and the Mont Blanc (you have to drive though the tunnel, amazing, hand cut through the rock, was for a very long time the longest tunnel in the world).
Start your loop back through Lausanne/ Lake of Geneva to
Bern and then Basel to enter back into the South of Germany.
I would take the Autobahn from Stuttgart to Baden-Baden, so you can check that off your list and then stay on county roads, which there should be one almost everywhere parallel to the highway. then when you come back get on the Autobahn in Singen and abck to Stuttgart, should all be unrestricted and fairly low traffic to blow out the end of your tour. Just distance wise you could probably do this whole tour in 3-4 days without sightseeing and stops.
I have nothing to add to that....well done

In Germany Hertz does not offer P-cars
#24
My wife and I decided that next summer we're going to Deutschland, but we're kind of stuck on when to go. My understanding was that summer was a bad time since all the tourists would be there, but it's tough for my wife to get out of work until mid-June (she's a teacher).
Any advice on when to travel? We're planning on heading to Stuttgart, seeing the museums, renting a fun car, driving some good roads, etc. Any recommendations on a good rental company (we'd like to get something fun, probably up to 150 Euros/day) or a good hotel (Marriott chain is preferred since I'm a gold level member) are appreciated. Vielen dank!
Chris
Any advice on when to travel? We're planning on heading to Stuttgart, seeing the museums, renting a fun car, driving some good roads, etc. Any recommendations on a good rental company (we'd like to get something fun, probably up to 150 Euros/day) or a good hotel (Marriott chain is preferred since I'm a gold level member) are appreciated. Vielen dank!
Chris

Awesome trip man!
#25
Sorry for the thread revival, but I figured it's better than starting a new one.
So our trip to Germany got delayed a year (thank you, work), but we are definitely going in the 1-15 July timeframe. Right now we're probably going to homebase in Munich, possibly flying in to Frankfurt first and driving down. I have a gazillion United miles, so we're good there - plenty of nonstops with exit-row seats if we can't get a bump to business class. I am also going to use miles for the hotel - right now considering the Renaissance Munich or the Marriott Munich. Going with Marriott since I can use the miles/points and I get complimentary room upgrades. For a rental, Sixt is renting a Scirocco for $89 US/day, so that's pretty good unless I can find a good Porsche rental (probably a Cayman for luggage space).
Any input/advice you guys want to offer is greatly appreciated! Merry Christmas!
So our trip to Germany got delayed a year (thank you, work), but we are definitely going in the 1-15 July timeframe. Right now we're probably going to homebase in Munich, possibly flying in to Frankfurt first and driving down. I have a gazillion United miles, so we're good there - plenty of nonstops with exit-row seats if we can't get a bump to business class. I am also going to use miles for the hotel - right now considering the Renaissance Munich or the Marriott Munich. Going with Marriott since I can use the miles/points and I get complimentary room upgrades. For a rental, Sixt is renting a Scirocco for $89 US/day, so that's pretty good unless I can find a good Porsche rental (probably a Cayman for luggage space).
Any input/advice you guys want to offer is greatly appreciated! Merry Christmas!
#27
Hope you're not overpaying for that Scirocco - although $89 doesn't seem too expensive - since it's nothing more than a Golf with a fancy body. A BMW 1 would be a lot more fun to drive and shouldn't cost that much extra over the Vdub.
#28
Chris, good move on the bump and great call for making Munich the home base. I JUST did this a few months ago but i stayed at the Sofitel Munich - you MUST stay there man. It litterally 50 feet from the central train station and the hotel is perfect. From there the whole country is at your fingertips.
Hit me up if you want to chat more. I did Dusseldorf (amazing!), Ulm (cool!), Nurenburg (sick!), and Akken (spelling?) while based out of Munich and it was awesome.
Man i cant wait to get back to Germany!!!
Hit me up if you want to chat more. I did Dusseldorf (amazing!), Ulm (cool!), Nurenburg (sick!), and Akken (spelling?) while based out of Munich and it was awesome.
Man i cant wait to get back to Germany!!!
#29
July is probably the best time to go to germany considering the weather.
For car rentals you should also check out Europcar. They have a branch at FRA airport. If you plan on keeping the car from July 1st to July 15th you can get an A3 Sportsback for ~ 750$. Just check out their site.
You should also check out Frankfurt before you go to Munich
Or how about a trip to the Nordschleife ? It's about 150km from FRA.
And thanks for the warning...now I know I better don't leave the house between July 1st and 15th....you could be waiting somewhere :P j/k
For car rentals you should also check out Europcar. They have a branch at FRA airport. If you plan on keeping the car from July 1st to July 15th you can get an A3 Sportsback for ~ 750$. Just check out their site.
You should also check out Frankfurt before you go to Munich
Or how about a trip to the Nordschleife ? It's about 150km from FRA.And thanks for the warning...now I know I better don't leave the house between July 1st and 15th....you could be waiting somewhere :P j/k




