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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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What would you have done?

Interesting read on justifiable self defense

'Guns in the hands of good people' - The York Daily Record

After reading the article, I SILENTLY ask you, "What would you have done?"
 
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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I hope that I would take the same actions.

P.S. When you say SILENTLY, does that mean that I shouldn't have actually responded to this thread?
 
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Kill someone because he grabs me by the shirt in a rage fit. Sounds fair enough. *shakes head*

Get in car. Close windows. Wait for situation to diffuse. How hard can it be? (this is for both "victims" involved)

IMHO, being confrontational just escalated the rage fit ... good job on the murderer's part.
 
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Originally Posted by Nav
I hope that I would take the same actions.

P.S. When you say SILENTLY, does that mean that I shouldn't have actually responded to this thread?
Honestly, I would have loved to have had a debate on this, but then I realized that there would have been way too many controversial remarks. So, I put in the silently part, but ah, c'est la vie now, ah?
 
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Originally Posted by Zorro
Kill someone because he grabs me by the shirt in a rage fit. Sounds fair enough. *shakes head*

Get in car. Close windows. Wait for situation to diffuse. How hard can it be? (this is for both "victims" involved)

IMHO, being confrontational just escalated the rage fit ... good job on the murderer's part.

no worries, just kindly ask him to release his grip on your shirt.

chances are, after he beats you to a pulp, he will move on to your girlfriend/wife in the car, or someone else.
 
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Zorro
Kill someone because he grabs me by the shirt in a rage fit. Sounds fair enough. *shakes head*

Get in car. Close windows. Wait for situation to diffuse. How hard can it be? (this is for both "victims" involved)

IMHO, being confrontational just escalated the rage fit ... good job on the murderer's part.
Zorro, I dunno. Something tells me the aggressor wasn't all there to start with. I could easily see this guy pulling a tire-iron out and going to town on your car or anyone else in the vicinity. However, I'm completely speculating so what do i know?

The part that bugs me is how society has seemed to split itself on two sides of the topic. One states to not get involved and let the police deal with it, even if that means someone else might lose their life or be caused serious bodily damage. The other side says to intervene especially when the aggression becomes directed at you. I can see arguments on both sides, but the problem that bothers me regards the basic "concern for the common man in his time of need." I'm rambling right now so I'll just stfu now
 
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Originally Posted by Zorro
Kill someone because he grabs me by the shirt in a rage fit. Sounds fair enough. *shakes head*

Get in car. Close windows. Wait for situation to diffuse. How hard can it be? (this is for both "victims" involved)

IMHO, being confrontational just escalated the rage fit ... good job on the murderer's part.
Seriously??
I am genuinely curious: Would you have sat by and watched while this guy dismantled these women and child? Sat idly by, not getting involved and let that incident play out?

"How hard can it be?" I guess pretty simple if you choose to do nothing, while something bad goes down.

Unfortunately, to de-escalate certain situations, there are no other options other than to be "confrontational" in return. So in your words, you're calling the guy that ended a bad situation, a "murderer", thereby taking the responsibility off of the animal that started it in the first place. Is that your stance?

And that being a noble man, stepping up, to stop another man from beating on women and children is a bad thing? Thats the scary stance....

The reality is that firearms are used far more during self defense than during the commission of a crime.
 
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I wonder why the assailant wouldn't stop after first getting shot in the leg. At that time he should have realized things went way too far and cool off. It's unfortunate things got that far, but that wouldn't have happened if 2-3 other guys around had the courage to subdue the guy.
 
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Originally Posted by Zorro
Kill someone because he grabs me by the shirt in a rage fit. Sounds fair enough. *shakes head*

Get in car. Close windows. Wait for situation to diffuse. How hard can it be? (this is for both "victims" involved)

IMHO, being confrontational just escalated the rage fit ... good job on the murderer's part.

You clearly have a serious reading comprehension problem. You may want to ask a friend to read it for you since it is clear you are having difficulty with it.




As far as the situation, I commend the guy for trying to assist the woman, her child, his fiance and those nearby from a dangerous situation involving a potentially armed psychopath. Most people would have not tried to help, and those are the people who are loosely identified with the human race.
When the man charged at the author of the story, he reached for a weapon. Most of us would have shot to kill, however the author attempted to disable the attacker. After verbal warnings and a shot to disable, the attacker continued to advance, again unknown if and what type of weapon he had and who else he may try to use it on. The author, now being physically assaulted, attempts to fire another non lethal shot into the attacker's hip. The result this time is fatal.
The author did what needed to be done, and he deserves a great deal of respect for the choice he made. I wish there were more real men and women out there that would not hesitate to help those in danger. The cowards, who will not, can stay at home and cry in shame at their own worthlessness.
 
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Originally Posted by Josh
I wish there were more real men and women out there that would not hesitate to help those in danger. The cowards, who will not, can stay at home and cry in shame at their own worthlessness.
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Unfortunately, the cowards are more likely to blame the hero than to be shamed about their lack of a spine.
 

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