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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Its just dawned on me that it resembles a porsche panamera from the rear 3/4
Anyone else see it?

 
Old Oct 29, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Well the photos were "photo illustrations", so I believe thats just a fancy word for photoshopped. And 1600hp? Well according Koenigsegg's official brochure, the Agera S, which is an Agera that only runs on pump gas but is a bit more powerful than a standard Agera, gets 1030 hp out of the 5.0. So using some math that most likely doesn't apply to real life, 1030hp/5.0L = 206 hp/liter. If Bugatti reached that level of efficiency then 206hp*8l = 1648 hp. So it seems possible if Bugatti has made a big leap forward in their engine efficiency. That or they just turned up the boost to where the engine is about to blow, but that probably isn't the case.
 
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Well the photos were "photo illustrations", so I believe thats just a fancy word for photoshopped. And 1600hp? Well according Koenigsegg's official brochure, the Agera S, which is an Agera that only runs on pump gas but is a bit more powerful than a standard Agera, gets 1030 hp out of the 5.0. So using some math that most likely doesn't apply to real life, 1030hp/5.0L = 206 hp/liter. If Bugatti reached that level of efficiency then 206hp*8l = 1648 hp. So it seems possible if Bugatti has made a big leap forward in their engine efficiency. That or they just turned up the boost to where the engine is about to blow, but that probably isn't the case.
Great post! There's a info circulating that they've increased the displacement. But i def dont buy that! Impossible! That would touch into many things i think. What i think is if they added the supersport an hybrid. That would make some more sense def! If as rumoured they managed to drop about 500kgs from the supersport, they cold take that advantage to stuff it with an electric module, increasing power, and lowering emissions.
 
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Its extremely difficult to add hybrid technology and lose 500 kilos though, the car would need to be stripped of all luxuries and pretty much everything not necesarry for driving if it were to do that. And I heard the rumour of that a 9.6l engine, but a 9.6l V8? Thats some serious torque haha. It might fit though, I can fit a 6.8L V10 into my truck thats only supposed to have a 5.4 V8. Barely fit and lacking AC, that is. My friend also just put a 7.2 in his El Camino, and that originally had a 5.7. Then again the cars I'm talking about generally aren't mentioned around Bugatti Veyrons.
 
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Its extremely difficult to add hybrid technology and lose 500 kilos though, the car would need to be stripped of all luxuries and pretty much everything not necesarry for driving if it were to do that. And I heard the rumour of that a 9.6l engine, but a 9.6l V8? Thats some serious torque haha. It might fit though, I can fit a 6.8L V10 into my truck thats only supposed to have a 5.4 V8. Barely fit and lacking AC, that is. My friend also just put a 7.2 in his El Camino, and that originally had a 5.7. Then again the cars I'm talking about generally aren't mentioned around Bugatti Veyrons.
FYI the veyron has a W16 as in 16 cylinders not 8.

As the displacement is determined by the stroke and bore of the cylinders.. adding 1.6l of displacement over 16 damn cylinders wont make the engine that much larger.

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Its extremely difficult to add hybrid technology and lose 500 kilos though, the car would need to be stripped of all luxuries and pretty much everything not necesarry for driving if it were to do that. And I heard the rumour of that a 9.6l engine, but a 9.6l V8? Thats some serious torque haha. It might fit though, I can fit a 6.8L V10 into my truck thats only supposed to have a 5.4 V8. Barely fit and lacking AC, that is. My friend also just put a 7.2 in his El Camino, and that originally had a 5.7. Then again the cars I'm talking about generally aren't mentioned around Bugatti Veyrons.
Will i dont know, but coming from VAG anything goes. With the kind of money they have.... And there's a catch. All coupes chassis are gone, so this is a stand alone model, or a grand sport variation.
 
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Though having said that I'd rather like to see bugatti going for a new budy style look, like McLaren, Pagani and Koenigsegg. Least they went to the extreme redesign with their cars.
What?

Koenigsegg went to the extreme with their redesign?

Isn't the Agera a clear evolution of the first car?

Or am i blind?
 
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Oops forgot about the W16, just divided it by two lol. In that case adding 1.6L as The Artist said is pretty doable without increasing engine size, with only .1l per cyclinder it could possibly be bored and stroked out more.

And exRockstar, I still don't think the weight saving is possible, it would be incredible to keep most of the car intact and lose 500k without adding hybrid tech. Maybe they'll make the car out antimatter or something, VAG has just about resource possible.
 
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Remembering the W16, then using my extremely theoretical math, if Bugatti had the same efficiency in their engine as the Agera S did, then 206hp*16l = 3,296 hp!!! Now that would be absurd.

Sorry for the double post, can't edit from my phone.
 
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Remembering the W16, then using my extremely theoretical math, if Bugatti had the same efficiency in their engine as the Agera S did, then 206hp*16l = 3,296 hp!!! Now that would be absurd.
Please explain the extremely theoretical math.
 



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