:::College Football 2011 - Banter Thread:::
#161
09-25-2011, 07:38 PM
I'm not denying that LSU, Florida, USC, or anyone is a good team right now.
I'm not fooled by the Gator's rank... I think next week will determine a lot, because I think Bama is one hell of a team. Based on how solid the Gators looked yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised if they upset Bama.
I think USC is a great team; they have arguably the best talent in the US - but Lane Kiffin just hasn't proved himself as HC yet... I truly believe that ASU would've lost yesterday had Pete had been coaching SC. Those guys use to come on the field like animals; it was intimidating to watch... Since Carroll's been gone you can just see it's not there anymore.
I'm not fooled by the Gator's rank... I think next week will determine a lot, because I think Bama is one hell of a team. Based on how solid the Gators looked yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised if they upset Bama.
I think USC is a great team; they have arguably the best talent in the US - but Lane Kiffin just hasn't proved himself as HC yet... I truly believe that ASU would've lost yesterday had Pete had been coaching SC. Those guys use to come on the field like animals; it was intimidating to watch... Since Carroll's been gone you can just see it's not there anymore.
#162
09-25-2011, 08:29 PM
I'm talking recruiting power over the past few years...
Not sure if you follow Rivals, Scout, Max Preps, ESPN, etc. but USC has just about had their pick of the litter... Last year #4 overall, even with sanctions thrown at them. Wanna argue that?
That's why I'm saying it's the coaching staffs fault; they're not getting the full potential out of these kids.
Not sure if you follow Rivals, Scout, Max Preps, ESPN, etc. but USC has just about had their pick of the litter... Last year #4 overall, even with sanctions thrown at them. Wanna argue that?
That's why I'm saying it's the coaching staffs fault; they're not getting the full potential out of these kids.
#163
09-25-2011, 08:33 PM
You lost me at "they have arguably the best talent in the US".... I can not think of one position where there player is the best in the country, so lets not even go with the entire team...Hell I am having a hard time figuring who on the Trojans is the best at there position within the pac-12.
#164
09-25-2011, 08:39 PM
USC could have every trophy winner possible (Heisman, Naismith, Outland, etc.) and you'd still find a reason to knock them... 
I agree 100% about the drop-off after Pete Carroll left. There's no question he was the glue that held it together.
I agree 100% about the drop-off after Pete Carroll left. There's no question he was the glue that held it together.
#165
09-25-2011, 08:46 PM
^not at all, however for everyone to act like they are the holy grail is absurd. they are a good football team, they won the last few years with Pete by breaking the rules, ala Reggie Bush. His last season was what,
9-4, Pete saw the writing on the wall unlike some fans and hung USC out to dry
9-4, Pete saw the writing on the wall unlike some fans and hung USC out to dry
#166
09-25-2011, 09:20 PM
I'm talking recruiting power over the past few years...
Not sure if you follow Rivals, Scout, Max Preps, ESPN, etc. but USC has just about had their pick of the litter... Last year #4 overall, even with sanctions thrown at them. Wanna argue that?
That's why I'm saying it's the coaching staffs fault; they're not getting the full potential out of these kids.
Not sure if you follow Rivals, Scout, Max Preps, ESPN, etc. but USC has just about had their pick of the litter... Last year #4 overall, even with sanctions thrown at them. Wanna argue that?
That's why I'm saying it's the coaching staffs fault; they're not getting the full potential out of these kids.
But for arguments sake you are correct, USC in the past could have their pick of the litter, but when they lost the Hawaiian linebacker to ND it started a downhill spiral.
ps- please don't lump me into the Christian USC hater-aide group... I will admit I think the Pac-12 is vastly over rated and over-hyped, but will give them credit when credit is due (Oregon last year).
Last edited by C Money; 09-25-2011 at 09:24 PM.
#168
09-25-2011, 11:37 PM
I do follow all of that, but as most will tell you it means very little... Take LSU 2 years ago landing Ruben Randal and Russel Shepard who were both top 5 in America(overall)... Fast forward to 2012 and neither have lived up to their expectations (yes Randal is a beast but he should be as good as if not better than floyd and blackmon). Just like in the NFL I could care less how you grade out prior to entering college/pro's its how you turnout 2-3 years down the road that really explains your recruiting skills....
But for arguments sake you are correct, USC in the past could have their pick of the litter, but when they lost the Hawaiian linebacker to ND it started a downhill spiral.
ps- please don't lump me into the Christian USC hater-aide group... I will admit I think the Pac-12 is vastly over rated and over-hyped, but will give them credit when credit is due (Oregon last year).
But for arguments sake you are correct, USC in the past could have their pick of the litter, but when they lost the Hawaiian linebacker to ND it started a downhill spiral.
ps- please don't lump me into the Christian USC hater-aide group... I will admit I think the Pac-12 is vastly over rated and over-hyped, but will give them credit when credit is due (Oregon last year).
#169
09-26-2011, 12:15 AM
I need pos rep like Hulkamania NOW!
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Done in two years. Rose Bowl.
Brewers, doing fine, Pack as well, Yipee. Home seats for all of them.
Rogers, nuff said.
Second, Madison.
Done in two years. Rose Bowl.
Brewers, doing fine, Pack as well, Yipee. Home seats for all of them.
Rogers, nuff said.
Last edited by Brobbins016; 09-26-2011 at 12:26 AM.
#170
09-26-2011, 12:37 AM
You lost me at "they have arguably the best talent in the US".... I can not think of one position where there player is the best in the country, so lets not even go with the entire team...Hell I am having a hard time figuring who on the Trojans is the best at there position within the pac-12.