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#1531
12-16-2011, 05:01 PM
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#1532
12-17-2011, 02:12 PM
Just scored a seat at Strikeforce in San Diego tonight unexpectedly, woot! Going to watch Melendez and Cyborg, should be fun. I think Cyborg's going to make Hiroko think about changing careers after this. 
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12-17-2011, 07:48 PM
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#1535
12-18-2011, 01:53 AM
Grt Strikeforce event, lots of action. Cyborg hit Hiroko so hard, holy crap. It was a slightly early stoppage, but had it not been stopped, she would've eaten another lunchbox and been turned into a vegetable.
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#1536
12-18-2011, 11:04 AM
Here's Cyborg training groundwork w/Tito. At one point he catches her in a triangle and she picks him up off the ground. Incredibly strong, this woman. Also interesting to note Tito's ground game, very good---against a 145lb woman. Why doesn't he use ANY of this capability against men?!! Guy knows what he's doing w/BJJ and wrestling, yet we hardly ever see ANY of it. (Okay, he sub'd Bader, that was great...but other than that, he fights like a meathead.)
Strikeforce Champ Cris "Cyborg" Santos Body Slams Tito Ortiz - YouTube
Strikeforce Champ Cris "Cyborg" Santos Body Slams Tito Ortiz - YouTube
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12-18-2011, 12:26 PM
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The Sunday Junkie: Dec. 18 edition | MMAjunkie.com
HATE FOR JONES IS SIMPLE: HE'S FAKE
I have no problem with Jon Jones, and I definitely enjoy watching him fight. However, I do understand why some fans have a big problem with him. Some people say fans don't like Jones because their racist, jealous, anti-Christian or simply haters. However, I think it's more than that. Jones has talked publicly about trying to say the right things in press conference. Stuff he says in interviews seems scripted. He talks about being a brand and taking on the role of being a superstar. In a sport that's all about realness and authenticity, that whole Jones schtick just seems fake. I've seen Jones fight for a couple years in the UFC now, and I still feel we don't know who he really is. He seems so concerned about the image he projects that we have no idea who the real Jon Jones is. I think if Jones just dropped the act and spoke directly and honestly, he'd have a lot more fans. Regardless, I still have the utmost respect for his abilities in the cage.
Brandon Barns
Corpus Christi, Texas
HATE FOR JONES IS SIMPLE: HE'S FAKE
I have no problem with Jon Jones, and I definitely enjoy watching him fight. However, I do understand why some fans have a big problem with him. Some people say fans don't like Jones because their racist, jealous, anti-Christian or simply haters. However, I think it's more than that. Jones has talked publicly about trying to say the right things in press conference. Stuff he says in interviews seems scripted. He talks about being a brand and taking on the role of being a superstar. In a sport that's all about realness and authenticity, that whole Jones schtick just seems fake. I've seen Jones fight for a couple years in the UFC now, and I still feel we don't know who he really is. He seems so concerned about the image he projects that we have no idea who the real Jon Jones is. I think if Jones just dropped the act and spoke directly and honestly, he'd have a lot more fans. Regardless, I still have the utmost respect for his abilities in the cage.
Brandon Barns
Corpus Christi, Texas
#1540
12-18-2011, 09:33 PM
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interesting...
Zuffa Should Consider Sending BJ Penn to Strikeforce to Face Gilbert Melendez
Zuffa Should Consider Sending BJ Penn to Strikeforce to Face Gilbert Melendez
If Dana White won't bring Gilbert Melendez to the UFC, he should bring the UFC to Melendez. Or at least, someone for him to fight. After beating Jorge Masvidal at last night's Strikeforce event in San Diego, what more is there for him to do? Who else is there for him to beat? What matchup are fans clamoring to see? The answers are nothing, no one and none.
Melendez is a top five fighter with nothing left to prove in the division as it stands right now. He's beaten Masvidal, Shinya Aoki and Josh Thomson, three of the best lightweights outside of the UFC, but there's no signed fighter in the division who has truly earned the right to face one of the best. Sure there are fighters like KJ Noons and Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante with some name value, but both of those guys have won exactly one fight in a row.
Solution: Bring someone over from the UFC to fight him. It doesn't have to be the champion. Bring one of the many quality guys over to challenge him. I have just the guy. He's a big name, he can bring attention to the promotion, and he offers the instant credibility that only a former UFC champion can provide. Bring over BJ Penn to fight Melendez.
Right now, Penn is on a break from fighting. He's home in Hilo, Hawaii spending time with his family after his hard-fought loss to Nick Diaz in October. But Penn does plan to fight again, and he even said that he'd be willing to rematch Diaz.
That's not going to happen, as Diaz has moved on to preparing for a big interim UFC welterweight title fight with Carlos Condit. So we need to find something that excites Penn, something that motivates him. Regardless of the skeptics who still refuse to believe that Melendez is for real, Penn knows the truth, that Melendez is for real and has a set of skills that would provide a challenge. Because of that, a bout with Melendez might interest him. As an added bonus, Melendez comes from the same Team Cesar Gracie as Diaz, making the marketing of the fight simple. BJ Penn comes looking for revenge against Diaz's teammate.
Penn loves fighting for belts, and as long as Frankie Edgar is the lightweight champ, Penn is stuck. He isn't going to get another shot against Edgar after losing to him twice. The same holds true for his chances of getting a welterweight title fight. He's already lost to Georges St-Pierre twice and Diaz once, so his chances of earning his way back for another title bout anytime soon are slim. So where does that leave him? He's in a legend-at-large role, looking for interesting matchups wherever they might appear. And is there really anything in the UFC that is so much more interesting than Penn-Melendez?
Let's face it, Penn would be one of the biggest stars ever to fight in the Strikeforce hexagon, with only Dan Henderson and Fedor Emelianenko able to rival his popularity. He's a former two-division champ in the UFC, every MMA fan knows him, and his presence would certainly bring attention to the promotion. Just as importantly, it would illustrate that Zuffa is serious about Strikeforce.
Just last week, White promised that Strikeforce wouldn't be a B-league, or a feeder system for the UFC. They would go after top talent, he said. They would find a way to make Strikeforce's best fighters happy, he said. That would mean leaving Melendez where he is, and bringing talent to him. This match would prove that White meant what he said.
The biggest hurdle in this plan would be making it worth Penn's while. Because Strikeforce is on Showtime and not pay-per-view, the pay scale is different, and White would have to dig into his his pocket to make him whole.
That investment would be worth it for Zuffa, to show that they are truly committed to Strikeforce as its own promotion. It's one thing for White to say it on a conference call, it's another entirely for him to send over a UFC legend. That's a statement. That's a promise kept.
BJ Penn would be just the fighter to satisfy White's promise, fan interest and Melendez's ambitions. Melendez doesn't just need a legitimate challenge, he deserves one.
Zuffa Should Consider Sending BJ Penn to Strikeforce to Face Gilbert Melendez
Zuffa Should Consider Sending BJ Penn to Strikeforce to Face Gilbert Melendez
If Dana White won't bring Gilbert Melendez to the UFC, he should bring the UFC to Melendez. Or at least, someone for him to fight. After beating Jorge Masvidal at last night's Strikeforce event in San Diego, what more is there for him to do? Who else is there for him to beat? What matchup are fans clamoring to see? The answers are nothing, no one and none.
Melendez is a top five fighter with nothing left to prove in the division as it stands right now. He's beaten Masvidal, Shinya Aoki and Josh Thomson, three of the best lightweights outside of the UFC, but there's no signed fighter in the division who has truly earned the right to face one of the best. Sure there are fighters like KJ Noons and Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante with some name value, but both of those guys have won exactly one fight in a row.
Solution: Bring someone over from the UFC to fight him. It doesn't have to be the champion. Bring one of the many quality guys over to challenge him. I have just the guy. He's a big name, he can bring attention to the promotion, and he offers the instant credibility that only a former UFC champion can provide. Bring over BJ Penn to fight Melendez.
Right now, Penn is on a break from fighting. He's home in Hilo, Hawaii spending time with his family after his hard-fought loss to Nick Diaz in October. But Penn does plan to fight again, and he even said that he'd be willing to rematch Diaz.
That's not going to happen, as Diaz has moved on to preparing for a big interim UFC welterweight title fight with Carlos Condit. So we need to find something that excites Penn, something that motivates him. Regardless of the skeptics who still refuse to believe that Melendez is for real, Penn knows the truth, that Melendez is for real and has a set of skills that would provide a challenge. Because of that, a bout with Melendez might interest him. As an added bonus, Melendez comes from the same Team Cesar Gracie as Diaz, making the marketing of the fight simple. BJ Penn comes looking for revenge against Diaz's teammate.
Penn loves fighting for belts, and as long as Frankie Edgar is the lightweight champ, Penn is stuck. He isn't going to get another shot against Edgar after losing to him twice. The same holds true for his chances of getting a welterweight title fight. He's already lost to Georges St-Pierre twice and Diaz once, so his chances of earning his way back for another title bout anytime soon are slim. So where does that leave him? He's in a legend-at-large role, looking for interesting matchups wherever they might appear. And is there really anything in the UFC that is so much more interesting than Penn-Melendez?
Let's face it, Penn would be one of the biggest stars ever to fight in the Strikeforce hexagon, with only Dan Henderson and Fedor Emelianenko able to rival his popularity. He's a former two-division champ in the UFC, every MMA fan knows him, and his presence would certainly bring attention to the promotion. Just as importantly, it would illustrate that Zuffa is serious about Strikeforce.
Just last week, White promised that Strikeforce wouldn't be a B-league, or a feeder system for the UFC. They would go after top talent, he said. They would find a way to make Strikeforce's best fighters happy, he said. That would mean leaving Melendez where he is, and bringing talent to him. This match would prove that White meant what he said.
The biggest hurdle in this plan would be making it worth Penn's while. Because Strikeforce is on Showtime and not pay-per-view, the pay scale is different, and White would have to dig into his his pocket to make him whole.
That investment would be worth it for Zuffa, to show that they are truly committed to Strikeforce as its own promotion. It's one thing for White to say it on a conference call, it's another entirely for him to send over a UFC legend. That's a statement. That's a promise kept.
BJ Penn would be just the fighter to satisfy White's promise, fan interest and Melendez's ambitions. Melendez doesn't just need a legitimate challenge, he deserves one.