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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystro
That's exactly my point. SUV's are the poster child of compromises. They do nothing well but many things o.k. ( yea, I own one for the family). Porsche was a company that is all about the purest form of driving, uncomplicated and full of no compromises. Look how long it took Porsche to put a cup holder in a 911. This is a company that said "there is no substitute". This is/was a company that doesnt believe in bastardizing or compromising their cars for anything but pure performance driving. It was that way for most of Porsche' history. This is not a company by philosophy, that builds SUV's.
I agree and I think it would be cool if they stayed that way. But, they realize that there is much greater growth and a wider customer base by expanding and making a few compromises. It's great to be sentimental about what the company was, but I don't think it's realistic to hope they continue that way. Besides, what they gain far outweighs what they lose by making small compromises. Porsche is still the greatest car manufacturer out there and I am confident that will continue.
 
Old Jul 8, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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I sure hope so....

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Porsche is still the greatest car manufacturer out there and I am confident that will continue.
 
Old Jul 8, 2012 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystro
I am going to leave pricing out of the equation. What I am getting at is a sportscar company that only makes sportscar suddenly making a off road vehical. They are two completely diffent animals. If your proctologist decides to do brain surgery the next day because it was a popular procedure, you might think twice about if it was a good idea to request his services.
I completely understand what you're saying from an enthusiasts point of view and Im looking at it through the companies POV. If there is a demand, and it doesn't disenfranchise their current customer base, then they will consider it. I mean, the 911 doesn't perform any different than it did before the Cayenne came out, and I'm almost positive the sales haven't dropped because of it.

I agree, good discussion.

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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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As long a fiat owns Ferrari I wouldn't expect a suv from them.
 
Old Jul 9, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mystro
That's exactly my point. SUV's are the poster child of compromises. They do nothing well but many things o.k. ( yea, I own one for the family). Porsche was a company that is all about the purest form of driving, uncomplicated and full of no compromises. Look how long it took Porsche to put a cup holder in a 911. This is a company that said "there is no substitute". This is/was a company that doesnt believe in bastardizing or compromising their cars for anything but pure performance driving. It was that way for most of Porsche' history. This is not a company by philosophy, that builds SUV's. It's guys like me (so called Purist) that still hold these values dear that Porsche originally established. The brand is so much more than just a "popular for now SUV vehical" that doesn't bring anything to the legacy of Porsche than a momentary profit.


Great discussion by the way.....
If I owned Porsche stock I'd be pissed if they didn't go after the SUV market. Ferrari hasnt yet. Maserati and LameBo as well. They will they'd be idiots not to.

The Cayenne didn't hurt 911 sales one bit. It increased it.
The suv brought customers that would have never thought twice about a Porsche before it. After they are hooked on the Cayenne they now wonder. Damn I wonder what their 2 seater is like.


The Cayenne was a brilliant move. Period.
 
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If I owned Porsche stock I'd be pissed if they didn't go after the SUV market. Ferrari hasnt yet. Maserati and LameBo as well. They will they'd be idiots not to.

The Cayenne didn't hurt 911 sales one bit. It increased it.
The suv brought customers that would have never thought twice about a Porsche before it. After they are hooked on the Cayenne they now wonder. Damn I wonder what their 2 seater is like.


The Cayenne was a brilliant move. Period.
That's basically what I was trying to say. The benefit of "compromising" far outweighs the "dilution" of the purity of the brand. It creates new customers. They can still build their sports cars as well as they always have, but the introduction of other vehicles puts more customers in sports car seats in the long run. Builds longevity and sustainability in the company.
 
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VW has the Midas touch, look at Lambo, Audi and Bentley today.
This is definitely great news.

I wish they would buy GM, Ford and all these bullsh!t US car makers.
 
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The reality is that it's all about money at the end of the day. The purity and passion of a brand usually dies with its founders. Porsche is a business. VW is a business. Lotus tried to become a business (let's see where that goes). As businesses, they will pursue any opportunity that inovlves making more money for themselves and their respective shareholders. And with products such as the Cayenne and Panamera raking in the big bucks, why would they stop expanding their portfolio? Unfortunately, the auto industry doesn't build cars for purists anymore. Sure, you have your little mom-and-pop operations but how far can they really go? For purists, they reserve their most expensive products: the GT3RS 4.0, the Carrera GT, etc. What they're basically saying is: You want purity? You want passion? Pay an arm and a leg for it! It's the sad truth, but at least, it's the truth.
 
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germans get it
 
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