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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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It looks like Rosberg is not on many teams. I was debating putting him on my team in place of kubica, which I should have done (but K has done some good scoring for me thus far). Basically it doesn't matter because I am so far behind and missed the first two games with my buy a lot of cheap guys stragey, which failed, and I am UNDER the amount I started with. I don't know if I want to put Rosberg on. Also, even though he is not doing well right now, Schumi is getting cheap and I feel he has some legs in him for the end of the season.
 
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrister
Longhorns is your biggest threat.

He is breathing down your neck on a 40.0 M budget.
That would be me! I'm in it to win it
 
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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Maybe this has been answered, but I don't get the scoring. Why does Vettel score 166 when he was 1 in the grid and ended up 6, where as Kubica socred 136 and he was 8 in the grid and ended in 5???
 
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TeutonicCarFan
Maybe this has been answered, but I don't get the scoring. Why does Vettel score 166 when he was 1 in the grid and ended up 6, where as Kubica socred 136 and he was 8 in the grid and ended in 5???
Vettel got 50 points for the pole.
 

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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How to Score - Updated for 2010



Your team will score points for each of your drivers as set out below.


Qualifying:*

Pole + 50
2nd + 30
3rd + 25
4th + 20
6th-10th + 10
Elimination in Q2 + 5
Elimination in Q1 - 5

Bonus Points:

Each Lap Completed + 1
Fastest Lap + 25


Final Race Position:

1st + 200
2nd + 100
3rd + 90
4th + 80
5th + 70
6th + 60
7th + 50
8th + 40
9th + 30
10th + 20
11th + 18
12th + 16
13th + 14
14th + 12
15th + 10
16th + 8
17th + 6
18th + 4
19th + 2
20th + 0



* The qualifying position is taken from the official results from the qualifying session. If a driver is subsequently penalised, the scores are allocated based on the original qualifying position. For example, if a driver qualifies fifth, but takes a penalty for an engine change, points are still awarded for fifth position.



If a driver is disqualified from a race or event, and details are known prior to the cut-off for the next event, the score for that driver will be zero for the whole weekend.



Where the full race distance is not completed, full points will be awarded for the Final Race Position regardless of whether 75% of the race distance has been completed.
 

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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My son and I are watching it again right now.

Paul didn't get to watch it last night.

It is just as exciting the second time!!
I'm going to watch it tomorrow night and start my own banter thread.
 
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TeutonicCarFan
It looks like Rosberg is not on many teams. I was debating putting him on my team in place of kubica, which I should have done (but K has done some good scoring for me thus far). Basically it doesn't matter because I am so far behind and missed the first two games with my buy a lot of cheap guys stragey, which failed, and I am UNDER the amount I started with. I don't know if I want to put Rosberg on. Also, even though he is not doing well right now, Schumi is getting cheap and I feel he has some legs in him for the end of the season.
Now you are thinking the right way.

Look for value on the board. You must have bought Kubica very cheaply. Now he is over 10.0 M. You probably made roughly 2.0 M - 3.0 M on that pickup. If you sell him now for Rosberg, you have to look at how much Rosberg has gained over that same period. If he has increased more than Kubica while you have owned him, you will lose money. I highly doubt that has happened. So it may be a great deal for you. Rosberg is overvalued in my opinion and won't increase much more until and if he starts winning races.

This is how I try to play the game - especially from behind. Look for value. For example, I sold Alonso for Kubica in China for a profit of about 2.0 M. I did this because I thought that Alonso would do poorly and Kubica would do well. But I always intended on buying Alonso back before Spain. Now follow me here. Alonso was 14.0 M while Kubica was around 9.0 M when I made the deal. If things had gone just as planned (which they never do), Kubica would have gone up over 10.0 M and Alonso would have dropped to 13.0 M. Then I would have bought Alonso back and made 2.0 M in budget (because I sold Alonso for around 14.0 M, Kubica went up 1.0 M and I would have bought Alonso back for 13.0M).

As it went, Alonso did well. He gained 0.55 M. But Kubica gained 0.65 M. So I can still sell Kubica for Alonso and make 1.10 M. It is not as much as I had hoped, but it is better than nothing.

But had I done the same deal for a driver like Webber - who is a 13.0 M+ driver - I would have been really stung. This would have been true even if Webber had won the race. If Webber had won, how much would he have gone up. Not that much. Because I believe him to be vastly overvalued in The League.

I think that Kubica still has a lot of value left. In other words, he is an undervalued asset. If you hold on to him, he could be 12.0 M to 13.0 M within a few races. Then your trade for Rosberg - or even Massa, Hamilton, etc. - would make a lot more sense.

I think that Schumi is getting to the point where there is some upside there. He has be overvallued since the start. But for 10.0 M (or less), I think he is a good pickup.

Just my bit more than 2 cents.
 

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Alzilla
I'm going to watch it tomorrow night and start my own banter thread.
It will be like the old days when it was just you and me in here!
 
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrister
Now you are thinking the right way.

Look for value on the board. You must have bought Kubica very cheaply. Now he is over 10.0 M. You probably made roughly 2.0 M - 3.0 M on that pickup. If you sell him now for Rosberg, you have to look at how much Rosberg has gained over that same period. If he has increased more than Kubica while you have owned him, you will lose money. I highly doubt that has happened. So it may be a great deal for you. Rosberg is overvalued in my opinion and won't increase much more until and if he starts winning races.

This is how I try to play the game - especially from behind. Look for value. For example, I sold Alonso for Kubica in China for a profit of about 2.0 M. I did this because I thought that Alonso would do poorly and Kubica would do well. But I always intended on buying Alonso back before Spain. Now follow me here. Alonso was 14.0 M while Kubica was around 9.0 M when I made the deal. If things had gone just as planned (which they never do), Kubica would have gone up over 10.0 M and Alonso would have dropped to 13.0 M. Then I would have bought Alonso back and made 2.0 M in budget (because I sold Alonso for around 14.0 M, Kubica went up 1.0 M and I would have bought Alonso back for 13.0M).

As it went, Alonso did well. He gained 0.55 M. But Kubica gained 0.65 M. So I can still sell Kubica for Alonso and make 1.10 M. It is not as much as I had hoped, but it is better than nothing.

But had I done the same deal for a driver like Webber - who is a 13.0 M+ driver - I would have been really stung. This would have been true even if Webber had won the race. If Webber had won, how much would he have gone up. Not that much. Because I believe him to be vastly overvalued in The League.

I think that Kubica still has a lot of value left. In other words, he is an undervalued asset. If you hold on to him, he could be 12.0 M to 13.0 M within a few races. Then your trade for Rosberg - or even Massa, Hamilton, etc. - would make a lot more sense.

I think that Schumi is getting to the point where there is some upside there. He has be overvallued since the start. But for 10.0 M (or less), I think he is a good pickup.

Just my bit more than 2 cents.
Good writeup, how is your stock portfolio? I am trying to figure it out. I went all cheapies in the beginning and they didn't rise much in value (made some $ off barichello early, but lost on other people - damn kobi). I have gotten some good value out of Kubica, and I think I want to keep him as he has been having some good finishes. I guess the money vs points battle is a tough one, and I have been failling on both, lol. But it is still fun, and I expect to be in the next banter thread (couldn't do back to back 3-5 am races).
 

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 10:36 PM
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Good writeup, how is your stock portfolio? I am trying to figure it out. I went all cheapies in the beginning and they didn't rise much in value (made some $ off barichello early, but lost on other people - damn kobi). I have gotten some good value out of Kubica, and I think I want to keep him as he has been having some good finishes. I guess the money vs points battle is a tough one, and I have been failling on both, lol. But it is still fun, and I expect to be in the next banter thread (couldn't do back to back 3-5 am races).
The statement in bold proves that you understand the game.

The battle between maximizing points in the short term vs. increasing budget for points down the road is a tough choice.

This week, I sacrificed some points (only 10 because Alonso finished 4th and Kubica 5th) for value (because Kubica went up more than Alonso). Of course, I wanted to do much better because I anticipated Alonso falling more in value.

It is almost exactly like the stock market. You look for undervalued assets and then sell them when they hit their peak for other undervalued assets. You attempted that at the start but your investments didn't pay off. Your strategy was sound. It just didn't pan out like you planned. No shame in that.

Keep seeking value, build your budget, get 4 solid drivers and you will climb up in The League.

I went from the low 20s to the top 10 in the second half last year while I was in the hospital and didn't make a single move because I picked up Webber, Vettel and Button early in the year. You can do it to.
 

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