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Old 04-02-2009, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TommyBahama
there are two constants in F1: a Ferrari will crash on the first lap and McLaren will be accused of cheating.
Fixed it for you.
 
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:41 AM
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There's no reason why you should hate the stewards when Mclaren cheated deliberately its clear they told Hamilton to slow down and let Jarno pass because they where under yellow flag and that was the only way they could secure third the Toyota's pace was too much for the McMerc so the Woking boys got greedy and cheated
 
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First race of the season and no points for both Mclaren and Ferrari.
 
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Here's a copy of the transmission between Louise and his team manager that the stewards deemed to have been a little naughty. To cite sources I got this from Autosport.

Transcript of the radio transmission between Lewis Hamilton and McLaren during the Australian Grand Prix:

Team: OK Lewis, you should need to make sure your delta is positive over the safety car line. After the safety car line the delta doesn't matter but no overtaking. No overtaking.

Lewis Hamilton: The Toyota went off in a line at the second corner, ..., is this OK?

Team: Understood, Lewis. We'll confirm and get back to you.

LH: He was off the track. He went wide.

Team: Lewis, you need to allow the Toyota through. Allow the Toyota through now.

LH: OK.

LH: He's slowed right down in front of me.

Team: OK, Lewis. Stay ahead for the time being. Stay ahead. We will get back to you. We are talking to Charlie.

LH: I let him past already.

Team: OK, Lewis. That's fine. That's fine. Hold position. Hold position.

LH: Tell Charlie I already overtook him. I just let him past.

Team: I understand Lewis. We are checking. Now can we go to yellow G 5, yellow Golf 5.

LH: I don't have to let him past I should be able to take that position back, if he made a mistake.

Team: Yes, we understand Lewis. Let's just do it by the book. We are asking Charlie now. You are in P4. If you hold this position. Just keep it together.

Team: OK Lewis, your KERS is full, your KERS is full. Just be aware. You can go back to black F2, black Foxtrot 2.

LH: Any news from Charlie whether I can take it back or not.

Team: Still waiting on a response Lewis, still waiting.

Team: Lewis, work on your brakes please. Front brakes are cold.

Team: If we are able to use one KERS that would be good. If you deploy KERS please do so now.

Team: OK, Lewis, this is the last lap of the race. At the end of the lap the safety car will come in, you just proceed over the line without overtaking, without overtaking. We are looking into the Trulli thing, but just hold position.
 
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JC919
Here's a copy of the transmission between Louise and his team manager that the stewards deemed to have been a little naughty. To cite sources I got this from Autosport.

Transcript of the radio transmission between Lewis Hamilton and McLaren during the Australian Grand Prix:

Team: OK Lewis, you should need to make sure your delta is positive over the safety car line. After the safety car line the delta doesn't matter but no overtaking. No overtaking.

Lewis Hamilton: The Toyota went off in a line at the second corner, ..., is this OK?

Team: Understood, Lewis. We'll confirm and get back to you.

LH: He was off the track. He went wide.

Team: Lewis, you need to allow the Toyota through. Allow the Toyota through now.

LH: OK.

LH: He's slowed right down in front of me.

Team: OK, Lewis. Stay ahead for the time being. Stay ahead. We will get back to you. We are talking to Charlie.

LH: I let him past already.

Team: OK, Lewis. That's fine. That's fine. Hold position. Hold position.

LH: Tell Charlie I already overtook him. I just let him past.

Team: I understand Lewis. We are checking. Now can we go to yellow G 5, yellow Golf 5.

LH: I don't have to let him past I should be able to take that position back, if he made a mistake.

Team: Yes, we understand Lewis. Let's just do it by the book. We are asking Charlie now. You are in P4. If you hold this position. Just keep it together.

Team: OK Lewis, your KERS is full, your KERS is full. Just be aware. You can go back to black F2, black Foxtrot 2.

LH: Any news from Charlie whether I can take it back or not.

Team: Still waiting on a response Lewis, still waiting.

Team: Lewis, work on your brakes please. Front brakes are cold.

Team: If we are able to use one KERS that would be good. If you deploy KERS please do so now.

Team: OK, Lewis, this is the last lap of the race. At the end of the lap the safety car will come in, you just proceed over the line without overtaking, without overtaking. We are looking into the Trulli thing, but just hold position.
interesting to hear how these conversations go... sounds like it wasn't done maliciously but who knows...
 
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:49 AM
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There go my fantasy f1 points
 

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Old 04-02-2009, 12:15 PM
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^^ No.


Originally Posted by strebo
He is on my fantasy team, but the wont change the points. They only do that if the decision comes on race day I believe.
Originally Posted by TommyBahama
correct it won't change the points.

which is why i rather seem them place him at the back of the grid next race.
 
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Originally Posted by strebo
^^ No.
Owned by my quick browsing during class. My bad.
 
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I'm with you whitlock, I can't imagine such blatant lying to the stewards. There guys a definitely smarter than that.
 
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:24 PM
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I assume they are talking about Charlie Whiting in the above convo??? How they hell can they be stripped of their points because of confusion and waiting on official word from the race director? I'm all for Trulli getting his 3rd back... but dq McLaren, damn. If they really did lie to the Stewards and then have a different story for the rest of the world, then yeah. But please tell me the team is not that dumb.

Could you imagine if the NFL or some other league were officiated in the same manor as F1. Taking touchdowns away 3 days after a game and changing the winner because they couldn't make a call and stick to it during game time.
 


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