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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Question Would you buy a Viper ACR??

Would you buy a Viper ARC???




The RT/10 that I have is a terrible and very scary car to drive hard... and that is why I love it. The ACR is now appealing to me in much the same way... and the 7:22.1 Ring timing means it can be pushed hard around a track without it pushing me towards an early grave

‪2008 Dodge Viper ACR - America's Best Handling Contender‬‏ - YouTube

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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Abso-fvcking-lutely.

I love the new ACR. It's such a friggin' monster.

That being said, I think you should get a Ford GT instead but the ACR isn't a bad 2nd choice.
 
Old Aug 5, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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If you're not making money from racing, lap times, 1/4-mile times, 60-130 times are somewhat irrelevant. For having fun on the track (and if you're not racing for money, there's no other reason to be at the track) I would pick a car that gives me the most pleasure to drive. For some guys, it's a spec Miata, for others it's a Z06 or a GT3. If your current Viper is more pleasurable than any of those, an ACR will be more of the same. I've been on the track at the same time as an ACR, and they're beastly fast for sure.

That said, as a street car, the extra performance envelope offered by the ACR should never be exploited on the street. The ACR is slower in a straight line than a regular Viper, and if you're going fast enough around corners to get the benefit of the downforce that causes that extra drag, you need to take it to the track.

As a track car, you'd be better served by something lighter that doesn't chew through consumables every week. Why not go for an Atom or a Radical? As quick or quicker, even more visceral, lighter, safer, and cheaper.

I like the ACR, but I see it mostly as a car without a purpose, beyond GM's bragging rights. Too racy for the street, but too heavy and unprotected for the track.
 
Old Aug 5, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PMac
If you're not making money from racing, lap times, 1/4-mile times, 60-130 times are somewhat irrelevant. For having fun on the track (and if you're not racing for money, there's no other reason to be at the track) I would pick a car that gives me the most pleasure to drive. For some guys, it's a spec Miata, for others it's a Z06 or a GT3. If your current Viper is more pleasurable than any of those, an ACR will be more of the same. I've been on the track at the same time as an ACR, and they're beastly fast for sure.

That said, as a street car, the extra performance envelope offered by the ACR should never be exploited on the street. The ACR is slower in a straight line than a regular Viper, and if you're going fast enough around corners to get the benefit of the downforce that causes that extra drag, you need to take it to the track.

As a track car, you'd be better served by something lighter that doesn't chew through consumables every week. Why not go for an Atom or a Radical? As quick or quicker, even more visceral, lighter, safer, and cheaper.

I like the ACR, but I see it mostly as a car without a purpose, beyond GM's bragging rights. Too racy for the street, but too heavy and unprotected for the track.
I completely agree with you but I think you made a little mistake here
 
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I completely agree with you but I think you made a little mistake here
erm, I think you're right. Thanks!

Ford's bragging rights. They were trying to outdo the Chrysler GT.
 
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Which member has that badass gt2 RS with pts roll cage? Ask him if you can use that on the track.
 
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1) Yes.

2) Assuming for whatever reason I didn't get a used SRT-10 and trick it out so it's even faster. Oh, wait, did that already...
 
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You have a GT2RS! Why are you even looking at those godawfully ugly, ancient, heavy cars with truck engines that rev to 3K?!
 
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Originally Posted by PMac
If your current Viper is more pleasurable than any of those, an ACR will be more of the same.
The ACR, or really any 3/4th gen car, are nothing at all like the previous generations.

As a track car, you'd be better served by something lighter that doesn't chew through consumables every week.
Vipers have exactly three consumables of note when being used for serious track duty: Gas, tires, and brake pads. They are one of the cheapest cars to track the snot out of, by a wide margin.

Why not go for an Atom or a Radical? As quick or quicker, even more visceral, lighter, safer, and cheaper.
When you factor in the very frequent engine/gearbox rebuilds and tire budgets for the Radical, you'll find they are anything but cheap to run in anger. Atoms are dead on any track that will permit speeds north of 120.

Too racy for the street, but too heavy and unprotected for the track.
With the splitter off, they're no more difficult to deal with on the street than a normal Viper. In fact, they're slightly more comfortable if you adjust the dampers down. While not a full blown race car (That's what the ACR-X is for), they're very, very competent as track day cars.

~3,300 lbs is not much of an issue when you have enough torque to jump start a small planet.
 
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No way on earth. The few Vipers I've driven weren't their top dog but had to be bottom 3 cars of all time I've ever had time behind the wheel of.

Fast or not who cares when you get the $hit kicked out of you trying to keep the thing on the road.
 



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