McLaren have not yet explained how the two systems will operate.

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Top speed... It's not close.

 

Exactly my point ^^ 0-100 maybe not as quick as a aventador but def quicker on top speed. And around the same as a F458. Mind you I said n/a not turbocharged/supercharged

 

Top Speed
F1 - 231 (242 with rev limiter removed)
458 - 201

So I'm guessing you meant they were close in terms of acceleration...

 

Best explanation in this P1vLF case so far.

Yes ok but what we learn from this? exactly, nothing.

First, losing a 1 mile race to other supercars doesn't make the MP4/12 a bad car nor a bad aerodynamics car.
Secondly, I don't think top speed was McLarens main goal when creating the Mp4/12. By the way it just isn't really powerful with its 600-626PS. The SLR at his time got 626 PS, but today you won't beat nothing with this, maybe 10 years ago.

The Mp4/12 is amazingly fast around tracks having at the same time not much power in relation to Hypercars. Every review I have read or seen about it, the driver were saying that it's handling is one of the best possible. So if I was looking for something bad McLaren has produced, the Mp4/12 would be the last I would choose.

Yes I have maybe more than about any other car. But the Zonda R is not comparable, its a pure race car.
The Huayras aerodynamic is absolutely amazing no question about that, but you can only compare it to another hyper car and this is going to be the P1. When you believe the P1 has worser aerodynamics you're totally underestimating McLarens know how.

However, its not a question of believe, its about facts and seeing the data of the P1 leads to the conclusion it will be much faster than the Huayra. So I don't understand how you can say McLaren don't come close when they already done a better job? Just waiting for the laptimes, they'll confirm it.
The MP4/12 just isn't a hypercar. You can't expect it to be as fast as the Huayra. So you can't say the Mp4/12 don't even come close, its just strange. It's like comparing an 700 PS Aventador to a 530 PS Gallardo. You know what I mean?

The P1 is a real hypercar. But saying it will not come close the Huayra is really naive. This means you think McLaren with all their manpower and capacity they can't do better job regarding aerodynamics than Pagani, really? I don't know what to say anymore.

I have no doubt about that and this was not the meaning of what I was saying. I just wanted to say that the manpower and resources of Ferrari or McLaren leads automatically to the maximum of what its possible at the aerodynamics section. This doesn't mean a small manufacturer can't do a good job too. Nothing more or less.

McLarens first hypercar will be released soon and we will see what is possible. I don't think it will be faster than the LF but however, both of them will set new records at any track. Being slower than currently hypercars would be a shame for both companies, this just won't happen. Thats what I wanted to say.

 

Interesting reading...

http://jalopnik.com/what-i-learned-f...1s-d-451597805

 

McLaren P1 by GTspirit.com

 

Awesome photo!

 

A dream it would be to have the p1... Amazing pic and those tires are glowing at least it looks like they are

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P1 will be at Goodwood in July.