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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 01:42 AM
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They are Alcons...
and well worth the coin !
I have the latest generation ceramics on my Porsches and they can't be compared to the stopping power of the Mclaren,obviously in combination with the air brake
 
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkoRamius
Thank you gentlemen. I have been offered a new car with a great spec but no ceramic brakes. Having owned a number of Ferraris and Porsches equipped with ceramics, I am not sure I want steel brakes on the McLaren.
I have steels on the 12c and ceramics on the 997tt,by far the steels are better as a comparison,they stop quicker (partley down to the airbrake)are better in the wet and the ABS on any 12c is far better.I can cook the fluid on the porsche,negating the fact that they are ceramic,but never have on the 12c on the same run.
The steels are good enough for 20 mins on the track before a cool down period.
If you spend more time on the track get ceramics,if its only 4/5 times a year they are not needed,for the average driver the main difference is looks and keeping your wheels clean IMO ,after 7k miles of generally hard driving my discs and pads are about 1/2 worn i would think,my last 911 turbo the steels only lasted 5k,again down to the fact on the 12c you are using all 4 wheels to stop,just changed the rear tyres at 5700miles
 
Old Jun 6, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ANDYC
I have steels on the 12c and ceramics on the 997tt,by far the steels are better as a comparison,they stop quicker (partley down to the airbrake)are better in the wet and the ABS on any 12c is far better.I can cook the fluid on the porsche,negating the fact that they are ceramic,but never have on the 12c on the same run.
The steels are good enough for 20 mins on the track before a cool down period.
If you spend more time on the track get ceramics,if its only 4/5 times a year they are not needed,for the average driver the main difference is looks and keeping your wheels clean IMO ,after 7k miles of generally hard driving my discs and pads are about 1/2 worn i would think,my last 911 turbo the steels only lasted 5k,again down to the fact on the 12c you are using all 4 wheels to stop,just changed the rear tyres at 5700miles
ANDYC -- thank you for that -- I will roll the dice on the McLaren
 
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Yep the irons seem to work just fine.



 
Old Jun 7, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Given the raft of upgrades coming for MY2013, I am now thinking the more sensible decision is to order a car for September/October delivery.
 
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Given the raft of upgrades coming for MY2013, I am now thinking the more sensible decision is to order a car for September/October delivery.
See your point Marco,but you will pay more and the only thing extra will be the door button,which you dont really need as you have one on the keyfob.Everything else will be upgraded to standard,still if you are prepared to wait!
 
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Buy the ceramics for the unsprung weight loss and ease of cleaning.
 
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A big thank you to all for your advice and views
 
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern
+1 to what STOPPIE said... harder.
-1.
its actually the opposite.
you NEVER come to a complete stop.
when you bed or re-bed a rotor, the correct way to do it is several quick (70mph-10mph) runs. but never stop fully. once you slow down to 10 mph, you accelerate back up to 70 mph, and repeat the process several time.

if you come to a complete stop, you just ****ed you rotors up.
 
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Originally Posted by alter.walter
Buy the ceramics for the unsprung weight loss and ease of cleaning.
Actually the ceramics are heavier than the irons in the Mac.
 



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