The Official McLaren F1 Thread
#411
07-28-2010 | 08:17 AM
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Actually when it left the USA in 2005 it had Arizona plates on it as the owner had moved there from CA about one year prior. That's kind of why I was surprised to see the CA plate on the car again.
It's definitely there if you look closely at the shots in that Kyalami album but the photographer chose to blur out most of it as a courtesy so you can't see it clearly. I think it was probably just put on to cover up the SA plate info perhaps.
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It's definitely there if you look closely at the shots in that Kyalami album but the photographer chose to blur out most of it as a courtesy so you can't see it clearly. I think it was probably just put on to cover up the SA plate info perhaps.
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#412
07-29-2010 | 12:26 PM
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Gooding & Co will be offering this McLaren F1 during their Monterey auction next month.
This particular F1 has an interesting twist to its history that is not explained in their description. I'd be glad to share with anyone who might have a need to know.
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ER
1995 McLaren F1 - Chassis No. 062
Estimate: $2,500,000 - $3,500,000
■ Two Owners from New
■ California Registered, US Delivery Car
■ EPA and BAR Certified
■ Complete with Tools and Fitted Luggage
■ Less than 3,500 Original Miles
■ Recently Serviced by the McLaren Authorized Service Center
■ A Milestone in Automobile Design
<-- click to enlarge
The F1
The brainchild of gifted designer Gordon Murray, the McLaren F1 has become recognized the world over as a prime example of the pursuit for automotive excellence.
Constructed with the same care and attention to detail that epitomizes a Formula One operation, the F1 was designed without compromise, engineered with elegance and assembled with precision, utilizing the finest materials available including aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber and even gold.
The engine, spearheaded by BMW Motorsport’s Paul Rosche, was tailor-made to suit the needs of the F1 development team, and the normally aspirated V-12 combines the best of all worlds. It has tremendous reserves of torque, a linear delivery and an unforgettable sound. Not only did it make a fabulous powerplant for the road-going F1, it helped McLaren win the 24-Hour of Le Mans and served in BMW’s own successful racing efforts.
When the F1 debuted in 1992, it captured headlines in every motor magazine worldwide. In the years since, it has been bestowed with every automotive cliché, every possible hyperbole, and has been featured in countless books, films and television series. Yet, despite its exposure in the media, it is a rare instance to see one on the road or at a show. Because of their scarcity, they make even the most exclusive supercars seem plentiful by way of comparison.
The F1 is not the typical overweight hyper-car, nor is it a bare-bones, kidney-jarring track toy; rather it is a lithe, beautifully engineered jewel of a car that is just as capable on a closed circuit as it is on crowded city streets. Were it not for its unique center seat layout and drop-jawed onlookers, one might easily forget that they are piloting one of the most extreme high-performance automobiles ever produced. Professional racing drivers have remarked that it is a true enthusiast’s car – lightweight, nimble, balanced and refined.
It has been almost 20 years since the F1 was introduced to the public and more than a decade since the last example was produced. In that time there have been many attempts to overtake the McLaren. Some may have gone faster, been more audacious, had a more dramatic combination of letters and numbers in their title, yet none has ever come close to stealing the F1s status as the king of the modern supercar.
This Car
Chassis 062 was sold new to Larry Ellison, co-founder and CEO of Oracle. Noted as one of the world’s wealthiest men, Mr. Ellison is also an avid sportsman with a competitive spirit. For years he has been a major financier of the BMW Oracle Racing team, was a participant in the America’s Cup and has owned a number of high-tech aircraft.
Delivered new to California, 062 is in a particularly rarified league as it is one of only a handful of these British-built supercars registered, titled and certified for use in this state. It carries the necessary BAR labels and EPA documentation regarding its importation and can thus continue to be road-registered in California. Very few F1s are eligible to do so.
Mr. Ellison owned the McLaren for the better part of a decade before selling it to its current owner, a noted California connoisseur with a stable of important sports and racing cars. In his care, the F1 has been exercised with regularity and has always been maintained as needed. As recently as July 2009, the F1 visited the factory authorized center in Oxnard, California, where it received a $70,000 major service that included a new clutch, new fuel cells, a complete fresh set of the specially designed Michelin tires and any other minor adjustments needed at the time. Later that year, the car returned for the factory catalytic converter update that has allowed it to pass a recent California smog examination.
Finished in Magnesium Silver over a black interior, 062 is a pinnacle example of the world’s most recognized high-performance car. In its 15 years, it has never been modified from its original appearance and has seen just enough use to keep it in fine running order without compromising its outstanding cosmetic condition.
Unlike many examples, this car has never been abused, modified with GT components or been through a color change. It remains essentially as delivered and, at the time of cataloging, the F1 displayed a mere 3,242 miles on the odometer. It should also be noted that this F1 is offered with its factory delivered luggage and tools as well as various service records.
Chassis 062 is, quite simply, a fabulous example of these groundbreaking automobiles and a prize for forward thinking collectors.
Estimate: $2,500,000 - $3,500,000
■ Two Owners from New
■ California Registered, US Delivery Car
■ EPA and BAR Certified
■ Complete with Tools and Fitted Luggage
■ Less than 3,500 Original Miles
■ Recently Serviced by the McLaren Authorized Service Center
■ A Milestone in Automobile Design
<-- click to enlargeThe F1
The brainchild of gifted designer Gordon Murray, the McLaren F1 has become recognized the world over as a prime example of the pursuit for automotive excellence.
Constructed with the same care and attention to detail that epitomizes a Formula One operation, the F1 was designed without compromise, engineered with elegance and assembled with precision, utilizing the finest materials available including aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber and even gold.
The engine, spearheaded by BMW Motorsport’s Paul Rosche, was tailor-made to suit the needs of the F1 development team, and the normally aspirated V-12 combines the best of all worlds. It has tremendous reserves of torque, a linear delivery and an unforgettable sound. Not only did it make a fabulous powerplant for the road-going F1, it helped McLaren win the 24-Hour of Le Mans and served in BMW’s own successful racing efforts.
When the F1 debuted in 1992, it captured headlines in every motor magazine worldwide. In the years since, it has been bestowed with every automotive cliché, every possible hyperbole, and has been featured in countless books, films and television series. Yet, despite its exposure in the media, it is a rare instance to see one on the road or at a show. Because of their scarcity, they make even the most exclusive supercars seem plentiful by way of comparison.
The F1 is not the typical overweight hyper-car, nor is it a bare-bones, kidney-jarring track toy; rather it is a lithe, beautifully engineered jewel of a car that is just as capable on a closed circuit as it is on crowded city streets. Were it not for its unique center seat layout and drop-jawed onlookers, one might easily forget that they are piloting one of the most extreme high-performance automobiles ever produced. Professional racing drivers have remarked that it is a true enthusiast’s car – lightweight, nimble, balanced and refined.
It has been almost 20 years since the F1 was introduced to the public and more than a decade since the last example was produced. In that time there have been many attempts to overtake the McLaren. Some may have gone faster, been more audacious, had a more dramatic combination of letters and numbers in their title, yet none has ever come close to stealing the F1s status as the king of the modern supercar.
This Car
Chassis 062 was sold new to Larry Ellison, co-founder and CEO of Oracle. Noted as one of the world’s wealthiest men, Mr. Ellison is also an avid sportsman with a competitive spirit. For years he has been a major financier of the BMW Oracle Racing team, was a participant in the America’s Cup and has owned a number of high-tech aircraft.
Delivered new to California, 062 is in a particularly rarified league as it is one of only a handful of these British-built supercars registered, titled and certified for use in this state. It carries the necessary BAR labels and EPA documentation regarding its importation and can thus continue to be road-registered in California. Very few F1s are eligible to do so.
Mr. Ellison owned the McLaren for the better part of a decade before selling it to its current owner, a noted California connoisseur with a stable of important sports and racing cars. In his care, the F1 has been exercised with regularity and has always been maintained as needed. As recently as July 2009, the F1 visited the factory authorized center in Oxnard, California, where it received a $70,000 major service that included a new clutch, new fuel cells, a complete fresh set of the specially designed Michelin tires and any other minor adjustments needed at the time. Later that year, the car returned for the factory catalytic converter update that has allowed it to pass a recent California smog examination.
Finished in Magnesium Silver over a black interior, 062 is a pinnacle example of the world’s most recognized high-performance car. In its 15 years, it has never been modified from its original appearance and has seen just enough use to keep it in fine running order without compromising its outstanding cosmetic condition.
Unlike many examples, this car has never been abused, modified with GT components or been through a color change. It remains essentially as delivered and, at the time of cataloging, the F1 displayed a mere 3,242 miles on the odometer. It should also be noted that this F1 is offered with its factory delivered luggage and tools as well as various service records.
Chassis 062 is, quite simply, a fabulous example of these groundbreaking automobiles and a prize for forward thinking collectors.
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ER
#416
07-29-2010 | 01:24 PM
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To break it down in the simplest of terms, this car is not a 1995 - instead it was built in 1997. It was imported to the USA that year along with 6 others through a company called Amerispec Corp in Connecticut as an "Ameritech F1". At the time the 'Show or Display' laws had not been enacted so there was not a legitimate method for importing a car like the F1 which had not been federalized.
One of the things that occurred when Amerispec brought these cars in was to claim they were the manufacturer of the cars. In doing so, they supplied each one of them with a new VIN that bears no similarity to the McLaren one, except the last three digits - in this case '062'. In each of these new VINs they marked the 10th position as an S which equates to a model year of 1995 even though 5 of the 7 cars had been built in 1996 or 1997 instead. They did this to bypass the requirement to conform to the EPA's OBD-II standards which were put in place for cars built in 1996 or later - something that wouldn't have been possible at that time.
It is the Ameritech VIN that has been used to register this car in California. This is not necessarily illegal as that's how the federal government originally allowed its importation but it is not 100% accurate either. If I were a potential bidder for a car like this it is something I would want disclosed prior to the auction. I know that some owners of these cars have experienced challenges in the past with registration and insurance because of the dual VINs they have.
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One of the things that occurred when Amerispec brought these cars in was to claim they were the manufacturer of the cars. In doing so, they supplied each one of them with a new VIN that bears no similarity to the McLaren one, except the last three digits - in this case '062'. In each of these new VINs they marked the 10th position as an S which equates to a model year of 1995 even though 5 of the 7 cars had been built in 1996 or 1997 instead. They did this to bypass the requirement to conform to the EPA's OBD-II standards which were put in place for cars built in 1996 or later - something that wouldn't have been possible at that time.
It is the Ameritech VIN that has been used to register this car in California. This is not necessarily illegal as that's how the federal government originally allowed its importation but it is not 100% accurate either. If I were a potential bidder for a car like this it is something I would want disclosed prior to the auction. I know that some owners of these cars have experienced challenges in the past with registration and insurance because of the dual VINs they have.
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#417
07-29-2010 | 01:34 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
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I have just been reading this months Octane magazine that has an article featuring an F1 that has recently been bought by Simon Kidston, some of you may know of him as he deals in very expensive classic cars.
Anyway he describes how just prior to him picking up his F1 the previous owner had spent £132,000 on a service back at the factory.
Simon then drove the car only for the service light to come on after 100km. So he sent it back to the factory again. £20,000 later the fault was diagnosed as being set off by atmospheric pressure as the he drove over Mount Blanc plus the cost of having the pedals and seat adjusted for him, that bill did not include the £4250 service.
He also mentioned how he had fitted a new set of special order Michelin tyres that cost £7600 per set; at least they are cheaper than a Veyrons and will last a hell of a lot longer.
Owning a an F1 must be wonderful but its one hell of an expensive wonderful
Anyway he describes how just prior to him picking up his F1 the previous owner had spent £132,000 on a service back at the factory.
Simon then drove the car only for the service light to come on after 100km. So he sent it back to the factory again. £20,000 later the fault was diagnosed as being set off by atmospheric pressure as the he drove over Mount Blanc plus the cost of having the pedals and seat adjusted for him, that bill did not include the £4250 service.
He also mentioned how he had fitted a new set of special order Michelin tyres that cost £7600 per set; at least they are cheaper than a Veyrons and will last a hell of a lot longer.
Owning a an F1 must be wonderful but its one hell of an expensive wonderful
#418
07-29-2010 | 01:47 PM
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I hope a TS member buys it!
#419
07-29-2010 | 01:48 PM
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From: California, USA
This is the new version:
Not a massive change really, but a massive improvement in my opinion.
The video in this earlier post comes from inside Simon's F1.
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Last edited by Peloton25; 07-29-2010 at 01:51 PM.