Officially Official: 2012 BMW M5 Concept!!!
#11
I like the look (except for the motherfugly wheels), but I'm keen to hear three numbers:
1) Power
2) Weight
3) Price (with reasonable options)
Also, the key to this car's success (not in sales, so much as inherent greatness) is how well it puts the power down. My E60 M5, with less power and way less torque than this will have, wasn't as brisk at low speeds as it should have been, simply because when you pressed the gas in 1st or 2nd, you just spun the tires. It was frustrating, because the only way to feel like you had 500HP was to romp from 70-100 in 3rd. I don't want a car that only really feels fast in *part* of its performance envelope. Whether this means more mechanical grip, or more refined traction control, I don't know, but the alternative is AWD, which adds weight, numbs steering a bit, etc. That said, if someone had offered me an E60 M5 with AWD, I would have jumped on it.
Panamera 4S w/ Carrera GT engine would be nice as well...
1) Power
2) Weight
3) Price (with reasonable options)
Also, the key to this car's success (not in sales, so much as inherent greatness) is how well it puts the power down. My E60 M5, with less power and way less torque than this will have, wasn't as brisk at low speeds as it should have been, simply because when you pressed the gas in 1st or 2nd, you just spun the tires. It was frustrating, because the only way to feel like you had 500HP was to romp from 70-100 in 3rd. I don't want a car that only really feels fast in *part* of its performance envelope. Whether this means more mechanical grip, or more refined traction control, I don't know, but the alternative is AWD, which adds weight, numbs steering a bit, etc. That said, if someone had offered me an E60 M5 with AWD, I would have jumped on it.
Panamera 4S w/ Carrera GT engine would be nice as well...
#13
I heard that they are hinting at 560hp and 0-60 in 4.3. But their is nothing actually confirmed yet.
#15
Maybe with x-drive as well??
A four-wheel-drive M5 also appears to be on the cards, to satisfy demand from the snow belt in the US, where all-wheel-drive Mercedes/AMG and Audi models are selling well. “There will be some all-wheel-drive surprises on M cars in the future,” says Biermann.
#16
i think it turned out well but i believe there will be some updates to the rear diffuser (which im hoping for)
it def could use some more aggressive features but it is a beast, TT v8 and the promise of AWD gives it a chance to run more consistently with Audi
it def could use some more aggressive features but it is a beast, TT v8 and the promise of AWD gives it a chance to run more consistently with Audi
#18
i still don't understand why they call this a concept, i dont see anything that shouldnt make it into production.
if the real deal is toned down from this concept it will look like a 528i, or should i say 728i
if the real deal is toned down from this concept it will look like a 528i, or should i say 728i