as a porsche owner i would like to say MWAHAHAHAAA

 

^^ this.

 

The reason why they aren't selling well is because anyone with 100k to spend on a "track" car gets a car that's at least 500lbs lighter. Not to mention the fact repairs and parts are more expensive than for p cars.

Porsche called nissan out when they ran there nurburgring lap and I say if you want a fast awd get a turbo S

 

Let's have a moment of silence...

 

@ Jetpilot718 - A GT3 RS is around $186,000 while the GTR is roughly around $115 000. So I'll take a GTR over the GTR. Far better handling and we already know that it can beat a GT3 in a one mile race. The Skyline is one of the best that outruns some of the mid priced supercars, hell it's even faster than the LFA.

 

Nissan cannot reduce the prices and make a profit or even break even. The US dollar is 20-30% lower against the yen since the 90's, and manufacturing costs have increased substantially. Simply put it, Americans cannot afford to pay for Made in Japan anymore. It's simply not viable to continue producing the GTR for export. Porsche is able to offer its pricing due to high volume manufacturing and using the cheaper models to subsidize the lower profit margins on the higher end. They are 2 different companies with different target audiences.

 

well, that's good. b/c it's not for sale! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH Ba dum-PISH!!!

 

Well said!

 

By your logic then Nissan should have even more of an advantage because of the broad range of vehicles it sells. For example, last month Nissan sold 86k vehicles vs 2k for Porsche.

 

[QUOTE=Jetpilot718;1371599]Nissan's main problem from day one is the price tag for the GTR. When I could get a Porsche GT3RS for near the cost of a fully loaded GTR, who in their right mind is gonna pick the Nissan brand? Or a BMW M5? Or a list as long as my arm of similar performing cars with much, much more solid namesakes?

I fully agree with you, but there are many who do not. There is a strong cult following to the GTR, who cringe at the idea of spending more for a 911. I do not even consider GTR or Corvettes when looking for a car, because after driving all of them there is no comparison for me. The performance of the GTR is amazing and can not be argued. But the feel of the car, ride quality, sitting position, car size and weight, and most of all built quality are very different. These are things that are very important to me and I will happily pay more to get them even if I get a little less performance on paper.



I agree, but go to the GTR based forums and they are all slamming anyone who would pay almost double for a Turbo S which is only a tad bit faster.


A fully loaded GT3RS is no more then 165k here in the US. The GTR are around 110k with a 10k dealer adjustment (increase). But you can get a slightly used 3RS for about 125k now, which I would definitley prefer. The GTR might stick better around corners with its AWD, but in terms of handling feel the 3RS is preferred by most at the track. I would also argue that the 3RS has a faster slalom time on Road And Track then a GTR.

Its a great car just as the Corvette is, but if given a choice, I will always go with the euro car. Go aheah call me a euro snob.