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Old May 22, 2012 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by joshg120
I wouldn't start complaining about aero, wheels, etc. This is just a test mule after all
Porsche is notorious for using the aero and wheels from their development cars on the production version. Check this 997.1 Turbo from spy pics:





Those ended up being the production aero and wheels. Those are two things Porsche doesn't vary much. The lights, etc. do get makeovers or cover-ups, but the aero and wheels are usually exposed from the get-go. That's why these GT3 wheels worry me.
 
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Hot damn! Except for the spoiler...
 
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Would love to hear videos of what this sounds like-- we need to arm the spies with vid cameras.
 
Old May 22, 2012 | 07:15 AM
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Rear decklid is no doubt the same as the aerokit.

Think back to the good old days of the 997.1 GT3. The aerokit for the Carrera had the same decklid as the GT3. I believe history is repeating itself here.

Agree Chris on the wheels. I hope these aren't final. These are also the same wheels that were spotted on the 991 Turbo mule, so hopefully they are just temporary center locks for mules.
 
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I'm somewhat shocked the car is out right now without more disguise. What we have here, besides a great car, is a marketing machine at work and this thread is proof it works damn good.
 
Old May 22, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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So are we thinking it will come with a 3.8 or 4.0 as standard?
 
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Originally Posted by JC919
So are we thinking it will come with a 3.8 or 4.0 as standard?
I would guess 3.8 for a few reasons: The 997 GT3 range's gradual displacement increases (3.6 to 4.0) were on the Mezger block, so not really comparable with the more pedestrian cars, especially after the transition to the 9A1 block with the facelift; also, I believe that the 997.1 GT3 (3.6l) had a smaller engine than the contemporary Carrera S (3.8l), and the GT2 RS of course ran a 3.6l Mezger block, whereas the turbo (s) had a boosted 3.8l 9A1. Now that the GT3 will probably have a warmed over Carrera S engine, I would anticipate that they will go with a 3.8 incorporating lighter internals, freer flowing intake and/or exhaust, and a redline above 8,000 RPM. That way they can probably get to ~450 bhp in a car that is significantly lighter than the outgoing car, allowing enhanced performance, despite the marginal overall increase in performance. Since the 4.0 is the only factory road car to run a 4.0l engine, I bet they will save that for a runout edition RS at the end of the lifecycle for the 991.1 (or even 991.2), with graphics and styling echoing the instant classic antecedent. I really can't see them going with a flat-8 or anything like that.
 
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The longer Porsche delays a release of a RS with a PDK and minimum of 500 HP the longer I don't have to worry on how to get the money to buy one. Lol

For me I would see no reason to buy a car less than or even equal to my RS 4.0. I need a major step up for the 4.0 RS to bite. Porsche has set the bar high with the RS 4.0 for sure.

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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
Porsche is notorious for using the aero and wheels from their development cars on the production version. Check this 997.1 Turbo from spy pics:





Those ended up being the production aero and wheels. Those are two things Porsche doesn't vary much. The lights, etc. do get makeovers or cover-ups, but the aero and wheels are usually exposed from the get-go. That's why these GT3 wheels worry me.
I stand corrected, proceed with the criticism haha
 



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