RUF Rt12
Oct 10, 2011 | 01:56 AM
#71
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it wasn't in Germany!
long story short... new highway... highway patrol have new radar guns (big deal in a banana republic)... some phone calls later and a deal is made:
the coppers get to test out their new toys... and we get to test out our toys. someone gets "caught" (wink-wink nudge-nudge). the po-po get their picture taken with the cars... and everyone goes home happy!
(the cops radio'd ahead to make sure the highway was clear, or just about. i think i only saw 2 other cars in front of me the entire run)
long story short... new highway... highway patrol have new radar guns (big deal in a banana republic)... some phone calls later and a deal is made:
the coppers get to test out their new toys... and we get to test out our toys. someone gets "caught" (wink-wink nudge-nudge). the po-po get their picture taken with the cars... and everyone goes home happy!
(the cops radio'd ahead to make sure the highway was clear, or just about. i think i only saw 2 other cars in front of me the entire run)
The law enforcement equipment needs to be verified independently to ensure that it is in the proper working order...
Oct 10, 2011 | 02:56 AM
#72
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stunning car man, congratulations. The torque curve on Ruf cars is flat and long....comes on early and just seems to stay at peak torque all the way through to max rpms...the result is a sensation akin to riding a roller coaster (Your gut gets left back at the point where you mashed the pedal...simply breath taking acceleration).
I've had the pleasure of driving a few cars over the years....the acceleration characteristics of a Ruf turbocharged car feel unique and unmatched, just mind bending fast.
I've had the pleasure of driving a few cars over the years....the acceleration characteristics of a Ruf turbocharged car feel unique and unmatched, just mind bending fast.
Oct 10, 2011 | 04:30 AM
#73
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Joined: Dec 2007
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stunning car man, congratulations. The torque curve on Ruf cars is flat and long....comes on early and just seems to stay at peak torque all the way through to max rpms...the result is a sensation akin to riding a roller coaster (Your gut gets left back at the point where you mashed the pedal...simply breath taking acceleration).
I've had the pleasure of driving a few cars over the years....the acceleration characteristics of a Ruf turbocharged car feel unique and unmatched, just mind bending fast.
I've had the pleasure of driving a few cars over the years....the acceleration characteristics of a Ruf turbocharged car feel unique and unmatched, just mind bending fast.
i've had rides recently in the current generation of really fast cars (e.g., Switzer P800 GTR and an HKS prepped "GT800" GTR that was even quicker,) and those of course are significantly faster than RT12's or "GT700" Porsches.
i'm wondering though at the torque and gearing characteristics of the RT12. my buttdyno says that it is optimized for speeds above say, 150mph. there's a bit of old school lag in the car, compared to newer cars, and even compared to a GT2 with the VTG's. but the GT2 and RT12 are geared completely differently.
given that modern Rufs are more for autobahn blasting, and not for trackwork, i'm thinking that the cars are set up for this sort of work. interested to hear comments from other owners?
Oct 11, 2011 | 12:56 PM
#76
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From: Corpus Christi, Texas
Your GTO is nothing short of stunning.
stunning car man, congratulations. The torque curve on Ruf cars is flat and long....comes on early and just seems to stay at peak torque all the way through to max rpms...the result is a sensation akin to riding a roller coaster (Your gut gets left back at the point where you mashed the pedal...simply breath taking acceleration).
I've had the pleasure of driving a few cars over the years....the acceleration characteristics of a Ruf turbocharged car feel unique and unmatched, just mind bending fast.
I've had the pleasure of driving a few cars over the years....the acceleration characteristics of a Ruf turbocharged car feel unique and unmatched, just mind bending fast.
Oct 12, 2011 | 05:14 AM
#80
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Guys, can I throw a spanner into the RT12 love in ?
Firstly I love the RT12 and think it is an awesome overall car and very fast, reliable and handles well.
Despite what you may read noone had fully cracked how to program VTG engines like the factory does and ultimately the engines maximum output is always going to be limited to about 700hp (even using very expensive intercooling) due to the size and operation of the VTG producing too much heat.
Ruf is a clever guy and realised the above fairly early on and concentrated on optimising the 996tt engine platform using regular K24 type turbos and 996tt electronics.
The downside of this is these Ruf engines cannot have the response of a properly done VTG engine. Not peak power and peak torque, (the K24s can give this easily and reliably without the need for Secan type intercooling) but the response of hitting the throttle at anything over 2500rpm and getting a surreal VTG wall of torque which comes in much much faster than a spooling regular turbo.
It will be interesting to see where VTGs go, will Porsche persevere and make bigger, better VTG platforms ? if yes then the tuners will have to learn how to make them work properly as the regular turbos (torque delivery) will become reminiscent of the old 930s.....
Firstly I love the RT12 and think it is an awesome overall car and very fast, reliable and handles well.
Despite what you may read noone had fully cracked how to program VTG engines like the factory does and ultimately the engines maximum output is always going to be limited to about 700hp (even using very expensive intercooling) due to the size and operation of the VTG producing too much heat.
Ruf is a clever guy and realised the above fairly early on and concentrated on optimising the 996tt engine platform using regular K24 type turbos and 996tt electronics.
The downside of this is these Ruf engines cannot have the response of a properly done VTG engine. Not peak power and peak torque, (the K24s can give this easily and reliably without the need for Secan type intercooling) but the response of hitting the throttle at anything over 2500rpm and getting a surreal VTG wall of torque which comes in much much faster than a spooling regular turbo.
It will be interesting to see where VTGs go, will Porsche persevere and make bigger, better VTG platforms ? if yes then the tuners will have to learn how to make them work properly as the regular turbos (torque delivery) will become reminiscent of the old 930s.....