VIDEO: 458 vs ZR1 vs NSX-R in Best Motoring
#1
VIDEO: 458 vs ZR1 vs NSX-R in Best Motoring
It's Tsukuba
and "Drift King" Tsuchiya is driving his personal, tuned NSX-R against a 458 and ZR1
And of course given its Best Motoring, the race HAS to be rigged... and so the invincible NSX-R HAS to win... right?
YouTube - Ferrari 458 italia vs Corvette ZR1 vs Amuse 370z vs DK NSX-R vs RSD 360 Modena
DJ and mods... i know, i know, no Porsche content here. Sorry, but i thought it was an entertaining vid to watch anyway. sorry, feel free to move the post if i'm off base here
and "Drift King" Tsuchiya is driving his personal, tuned NSX-R against a 458 and ZR1
And of course given its Best Motoring, the race HAS to be rigged... and so the invincible NSX-R HAS to win... right?
YouTube - Ferrari 458 italia vs Corvette ZR1 vs Amuse 370z vs DK NSX-R vs RSD 360 Modena
DJ and mods... i know, i know, no Porsche content here. Sorry, but i thought it was an entertaining vid to watch anyway. sorry, feel free to move the post if i'm off base here
#2
Pretty much what I expected. 458 just walks away.
They do tend to favor Japanese vehicles, but they also are people and whomever gets the lead drives hardest. The 458 and ZR1 have a form of launch control if I remember correctly, it was not used from what I can tell. It seems they may either want to save the vehicles from un-needed wear or they are trying to make things more exciting. In either case seeing what the actual driving and head to head battles are is entertaining and fun.
Also this might be better in a related car area, or the general car area.
They do tend to favor Japanese vehicles, but they also are people and whomever gets the lead drives hardest. The 458 and ZR1 have a form of launch control if I remember correctly, it was not used from what I can tell. It seems they may either want to save the vehicles from un-needed wear or they are trying to make things more exciting. In either case seeing what the actual driving and head to head battles are is entertaining and fun.
Also this might be better in a related car area, or the general car area.
#5
LFA, GTR, ZR1... no 458, but a GT2RS (!).
and at Fuji, a proper power track, not a tiny track like Tsukuba
here's the problem... its videos like this that IMO completely undermine BM's credibility.
i'm sure the latest 530HP GTR is a real monster, but the delta in laptime with the 2RS just cannot possibly be right... not on what seems to be a power track like this. not to mention that the Porsche driver was so clumsy, crunching gears and missing shifts. Seiji Ara is a decorated driver for sure (he won LeMans in '04 and has done WTCC, JGTC...) but I can't remember any BM races where he shone; he always seems so tentative and nowhere near as aggressive as guys like Tsuchiya.
and then there's the ZR1... it makes no sense to me that it did so well at a tight technical track like Tsukuba, even relative to a monster like the 458... yet it seemed completely out of its depth here on a track that you'd think would favor its massive power. Hattori is normally one of the more aggressive BM drivers-- he's had some epic fender to fender battles with Tsuchiya, so WTH is going on here, who knows...
anyway, this vid will surely fan the flames of the "Best Motoring is rigged" brigade, as much as the first vid I posted seems to prove otherwise.
all moot at this point, as the show has been cancelled... after 24 years! I may be mistaken but i think this was their farewell race.
love 'em or hate 'em, they were always entertaining to watch, and what other gear head show can you think of that has run that long, with this kind of wheel to wheel action (even if frequently with dubious outcomes).
i'll miss 'em for sure.
R.I.P. Best Motoring (1987-2011)
#7
Here you go then: Track Test - LFA vs GTR vs GT2 RS vs ZR1
LFA, GTR, ZR1... no 458, but a GT2RS (!).
and at Fuji, a proper power track, not a tiny track like Tsukuba
here's the problem... its videos like this that IMO completely undermine BM's credibility.
i'm sure the latest 530HP GTR is a real monster, but the delta in laptime with the 2RS just cannot possibly be right... not on what seems to be a power track like this. not to mention that the Porsche driver was so clumsy, crunching gears and missing shifts. Seiji Ara is a decorated driver for sure (he won LeMans in '04 and has done WTCC, JGTC...) but I can't remember any BM races where he shone; he always seems so tentative and nowhere near as aggressive as guys like Tsuchiya.
and then there's the ZR1... it makes no sense to me that it did so well at a tight technical track like Tsukuba, even relative to a monster like the 458... yet it seemed completely out of its depth here on a track that you'd think would favor its massive power. Hattori is normally one of the more aggressive BM drivers-- he's had some epic fender to fender battles with Tsuchiya, so WTH is going on here, who knows...
anyway, this vid will surely fan the flames of the "Best Motoring is rigged" brigade, as much as the first vid I posted seems to prove otherwise.
all moot at this point, as the show has been cancelled... after 24 years! I may be mistaken but i think this was their farewell race.
love 'em or hate 'em, they were always entertaining to watch, and what other gear head show can you think of that has run that long, with this kind of wheel to wheel action (even if frequently with dubious outcomes).
i'll miss 'em for sure.
R.I.P. Best Motoring (1987-2011)
LFA, GTR, ZR1... no 458, but a GT2RS (!).
and at Fuji, a proper power track, not a tiny track like Tsukuba
here's the problem... its videos like this that IMO completely undermine BM's credibility.
i'm sure the latest 530HP GTR is a real monster, but the delta in laptime with the 2RS just cannot possibly be right... not on what seems to be a power track like this. not to mention that the Porsche driver was so clumsy, crunching gears and missing shifts. Seiji Ara is a decorated driver for sure (he won LeMans in '04 and has done WTCC, JGTC...) but I can't remember any BM races where he shone; he always seems so tentative and nowhere near as aggressive as guys like Tsuchiya.
and then there's the ZR1... it makes no sense to me that it did so well at a tight technical track like Tsukuba, even relative to a monster like the 458... yet it seemed completely out of its depth here on a track that you'd think would favor its massive power. Hattori is normally one of the more aggressive BM drivers-- he's had some epic fender to fender battles with Tsuchiya, so WTH is going on here, who knows...
anyway, this vid will surely fan the flames of the "Best Motoring is rigged" brigade, as much as the first vid I posted seems to prove otherwise.
all moot at this point, as the show has been cancelled... after 24 years! I may be mistaken but i think this was their farewell race.
love 'em or hate 'em, they were always entertaining to watch, and what other gear head show can you think of that has run that long, with this kind of wheel to wheel action (even if frequently with dubious outcomes).
i'll miss 'em for sure.
R.I.P. Best Motoring (1987-2011)
just think of the battle as a "show"
when they did time attack before that battle
GT2 RS clocked the best lap time, at least 1 sec difference with 2nd best (GT-R)
also when they were talking about the cars
LFA is faster in higher speed cornering sections (than the GT-R)
GT-R has much more grip in slower cornering sections (than the LFA and RS)
all in all, GT2 RS is the best all around supercar among cars they tested
(in this case, among LFA, ZR1, GT-R and RS)
and btw, best motoring is not "cancelled". they say it's going on a "break" that they don't even know when they will come back from it.....
just my 2 cents...
but thanks for the link. i was gonn post up the time attack session and straight line rolling battle as well...
#8
thanks for the added info! i didn't see the time attack portion. pls post the link?
also, i'm assuming they used the same driver for the time attack, which obviously removes that variable.
finally, i do agree with your comment about the battle being as much a "show" as anything else.
cheers
also, i'm assuming they used the same driver for the time attack, which obviously removes that variable.
finally, i do agree with your comment about the battle being as much a "show" as anything else.
cheers
#10
here's the time attack session and the 50km/h to whatever rolling they do at the main straight.
btw, it is the LFA vs GT2 RS vs GT-R vs ZR1 vs tuned F430
time attack
http://www.youtube.com/embed/lh0pX7_HKZA
rolling
http://www.youtube.com/embed/NukiQ6gvrpE
btw, it is the LFA vs GT2 RS vs GT-R vs ZR1 vs tuned F430
time attack
http://www.youtube.com/embed/lh0pX7_HKZA
rolling
http://www.youtube.com/embed/NukiQ6gvrpE
Last edited by helothere; 05-13-2011 at 11:59 PM.