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Chris Harris sold his GT3 RS4.0 and replaced it with......

I sold the GT3 RS 4.0 a while back. I was never going to be able to afford it for too long – as it was I spent eight blissful months owning the car of my dreams, and spent £10,000 on finance.

For the avoidance of doubt, I also made money on the deal, which should force me to identify those who said I had no idea what I was doing, and blow a big raspberry at them. But in the end, I no longer own the best car I’ve driven so there’s not much to brag about. It was a hell of a gamble, but it worked out well.

Better to have loved and lost and all that that.

Better to have loved and lost

I am a serial car-searcher though. Sometimes I wonder if the thrill of the chase is actually more addictive than owning and driving the car. I tweeted something about a Vanquish S about six weeks ago. A few weeks later I own a 599 GTB. You what?

It went something like this. Aston launched the new Vanquish and I thought, well, whatever. In fact I thought it looked bloody half-baked and reminded me how desirable the last Vanquish S models were becoming and, come to mention it, wouldn’t one of those make a cracking low-depreciation smoke for a year or so. Maybe even turn a penny?

I scoured and investigated and what looked like the perfect carappeared at Nicholas Mee & Co: a Vanquish S, converted to manual by the Works Service, 45,000 miles, J Bond, etc. Predictably, the mileage scared me for the £74,000 asking price. I went and drove it and thought N Mee and pals were a terrific bunch. But it wasn’t to be.

Lower miles would mean more money. Was a Vanquish worth nearly £90K? This inevitably led me to employ the man maths calculator to persuade myself that £90K pushed me into 599 territory. I know, the male brain is deeply confused. I set off to see my old pal Matthew Beard who is now running Ferrari Swindon. This is a strange situation given my current status with the Scuderia. Even so, they treat me like a human being – but I still bring along a caged rodent to taste all beverages for traces of Polonium. That last bit was a joke.

A moment of vulnerability

I know I’m biased because I like the Lovett group, but you have to go and see this new Ferrari/Maserati showroom by the M4. It’s the biggest in Europe, it feels like a kind of permanent motor show – oh, and it’s about the most dangerous retail environment yet devised by Homo Sapiens. I drove a black 599 and loved it. The Aston was charming, the Ferrari felt 20 years more modern and looked good value at £106K. Good value is a term listed in the man maths lexicon of delusional car-purchasing phrases. It can apply to any car of any price.

The classifieds were not reassuring though. 599 prices appeared to be of the severed lift cable variety, with early cars under £100K and tanking. 10 days later Matthew phoned to say he had a Grigio Silverstone car with 20K miles for mid-90s. We haggled. I bought it. £40K in, rest on the dreaded drip. About £350 a month.

Is it madness? Suppose it could be. There’s no shortage of 599s out there, and they’re still depreciating fast. The Ferrari situation didn’t come into it. It’s the car I want, not being pals with the company that builds it.

My reasoning went thus: I wanted another special car, I miss driving Ferraris because they are great cars even if the company is nuts. The F12 has already been announced, so the 599 is already, technically old-school. It is also a third of the price of a new F12. Is it really only a third as good? I’ve always liked the standard 599 without the harsh HGTE chassis pack.


599 style still delights, even if officially obsolete

A punt on a prancing horse

When the 458 was released, 430 prices plummeted, but then rallied when people thought they looked too cheap and the gap to the new car was so vast. I’m partly hedging that situation being repeated with the 599 and F12, even if I’m grown up enough to know that V12 Ferraris are far worse news than the V8 variety. A good 575 is still a £70K retail car, so even if I lose out, you’d have to hope it wasn’t too tragic.

The clincher was a Porsche 911 test car I used for as week recently which listed at £92,947. It’s a great car, but the Ferrari has 620hp and will scare the shittle out of you in third gear.

I have one year’s Power Warranty on the 599, covering major mechanical failures, otherwise I’m on my own. It’s a flipping impressive machine. Big, endlessly powerful and, to my eyes, beautiful. I had a 575 a few years back, and even though I adored its manual gearbox and old-fashioned GT style, the 599 runs rings around it.

So how does it feel to have bought a Ferrari that became officially ‘old’ just a few weeks after I paid for it? Altogether good. Like you I’ve read the F12 drives, and it looks amazing, but it’s so far out of my league it just doesn’t figure. I’m sure it would blow my car into the weeds, but I can’t use all 620hp of mine much of the time, so that part of its performance is probably lost on me. However, its smaller overall size really does appeal - the 599 feels massive on UK roads.

Deflating first outing

Sadly, I had to have the F1 gearbox. There were no manual 599s for the UK market and I didn’t have the appetite for a LHD car. For me the paddles are the weakest part of the package, but on quick upshifts it’s still pretty damn impressive. Given my partisan stance on these actuated manual ’boxes, I’m very disappointed at how little I am hating using it.

The first 800 miles have been reasonably uneventful, bar a puncture during a video shoot, which showed the tyre pressure monitoring system to be rather handy. At gone 10pm in darkest Wales, using the computer to monitor the deflation, I had to stop every 20 miles to re-inflate the tyre. Next morning I found the compressor in the boot. Idiot.

A fellow 599 owner said his tyre valves had leaked, and I should check mine, but a large hole in the centre of the 305-section put paid to that theory. Two new Pirelli P-Zeros cost £600 plus VAT, plus fitting. Ouch.

I usually judge the success of a purchase on how much I use it. So far, I’ve driven the 599 every day. It’s easy when you want it, insane when you need it.

Lord knows how long I’ll keep it. For now it’s an effective, expedient but expensive method of making all those sodding F12 reviews written by other people a little more palatable.

FACT SHEET
Car: 2007 Ferrari 599 GTB
Run by: Chris Harris
Bought: July 2012
Mileage: 20,000
Purchase price: Move along…
Last month at a glance: Honeymoon period going well, puncture notwithstanding




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Old 08-08-2012, 08:20 PM
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I'm interested to see how that goes... I strongly considered a 599 for my next "big" car, but I was told by countless folks that running costs are astronomical. I'll have a $200K-ish budget in a few years, but I don't want a money pit either. The same folks above strongly recommended a GT2 RS if I want to go that route.

Thanks for the post - Monkey Harris is a certified source of no-BS info...
 
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:50 PM
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I enjoy listening and/or reading every word this guy says. He is just as car addicted as most of us and yet he has such a sweet job where he gets to drive and give reviews on them. I thought he was talking about me when he was saying how the hunt is sometimes more exciting then the having of the car.
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:03 AM
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Shocked Chris sold his 4.0
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:25 AM
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Surprising especially how angry he was with Ferrari
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:40 AM
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what happened between him and ferrari? link?
must say i hate the Z4-taillights on the 599, but i know i will love owning one for the right price
unfortunately the $140k average it is going for nowadays is almost double what i reckon it should be at given that it's a v12 fcar in the kuwaiti market lol
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:02 AM
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what happened between him and ferrari? link?
must say i hate the Z4-taillights on the 599, but i know i will love owning one for the right price
unfortunately the $140k average it is going for nowadays is almost double what i reckon it should be at given that it's a v12 fcar in the kuwaiti market lol
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:54 AM
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I love his style and of course car choices aren't bad.
 
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1. Im really suprised by his choice..this car is more for grand daddies...if it was a 458..OK..but this

2. Yes - service costs will be astronomical

3. His financial situation - given what is written in the article - doesnt permit him to own such a car...he is leasing it..but forgetting the whole cost of the thing

Wouldnt be suprised if he sells that one again in a few years..to get what? a second hand boxster? How can somebody being used to the performance thrill of the 4.0 go backwards with this one..

And Im afraid that prices for this wont go up either...look at 550 prices now...all ferrrari "limosines"..lost quite quickly and dratically value..the only more or less stable things are 360, 430, 458..

He may be a great journalist..but this one wasnt a smart decision...
 

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Old 08-09-2012, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jumping_horse
1. Im really suprised by his choice..this car is more for grand daddies...if it was a 458..OK..but this

2. Yes - service costs will be astronomical

3. His financial situation - given what is written in the article - doesnt permit him to own such a car...he is leasing it..but forgetting the whole cost of the thing

Wouldnt be suprised if he sells that one again in a few years..to get what? a second hand boxster? How can somebody being used to the performance thrill of the 4.0 go backwards with this one..

And Im afraid that prices for this wont go up either...look at 550 prices now...all ferrrari "limosines"..lost quite quickly and dratically value..the only more or less stable things are 360, 430, 458..


He may be a great journalist..but this one wasnt a smart decision...
Who are you to judge here, I as well I find the 599 to be a superior car to the 458 in most ways (handling not) but as we say the 599 is a mans car... maybe its not for you.
 

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