New Ferrari F70 Photos!
#33
And yes, it's certainly based on the Enzo, I have even seen last week in a workshop nearby the factory a naked Enzo with some missing components and the badge " Prototipo F140 " (F140 is the Enzo, but why was it there?), and technically this should be the only Enzo prototype alive:

Even the early 599 prototypes were based on the 612

And they did the very first FF mules based on the 612, same for the 458 with the F430 etc.. that's how it works, it doesn't make sense to show a part of the real look of the car many months before the unveiling, especially if we're talking about the successor of the Enzo.

Even the early 599 prototypes were based on the 612

And they did the very first FF mules based on the 612, same for the 458 with the F430 etc.. that's how it works, it doesn't make sense to show a part of the real look of the car many months before the unveiling, especially if we're talking about the successor of the Enzo.
Last edited by marchettino; Jun 7, 2012 at 03:30 PM.
#34
Even with the caouflage lots of pieces are different, for example the windows. I can't find the reason of puting different windows if the car is based on the Enzo. The roof line is different, the front windshield too. Probably they are using the final monocoque chassis under a fake bodywork. I can't deny that the car can have some of the Enzo parts Behind that camouflage but it doesn't seems that if you look closely.
But we can answer some questions. Marco, please: Can you say to us if the front windshield an the side windows of the car you said that you have a picture of it are similar to the ones you can see in this prototype?
Edit: One more thing. The first car you have shown is the Enzo Prototype M3 and the second car is based on the 599, only the camouflage looks like a 612. You can see all the elements of the 599 on it (front grilles, hood outakes, front windshield, side windows, roof line...).
But we can answer some questions. Marco, please: Can you say to us if the front windshield an the side windows of the car you said that you have a picture of it are similar to the ones you can see in this prototype?
Edit: One more thing. The first car you have shown is the Enzo Prototype M3 and the second car is based on the 599, only the camouflage looks like a 612. You can see all the elements of the 599 on it (front grilles, hood outakes, front windshield, side windows, roof line...).
Last edited by Amzamus; Jun 7, 2012 at 03:51 PM.
#36
If I can add some credibility for my friend Marchettino here - we had lunch together near the Pagani factory about a week ago and during that meeting he shared with me one of the photos of the F70's body. While not in finished form it was easy to see how the new Ferrari supercar will look. The lines are very organic without the hard edges we saw on the Enzo. I got the impression it will borrow many styling cues first seen on Jim Glickenhaus' Ferrari P4/5. One obvious cue seen in these spy photos is the reverse tear drop rear engine cover.
Just a thought here, but maybe this crowd of keyboard jockeys from around the world should take it a bit easier on a guy who has his feet on the ground in the heart of Italian supercar territory and has developed contacts and friends at many of those companies. Marco is a good guy - I'd stake my own reputation on defending his.
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Just a thought here, but maybe this crowd of keyboard jockeys from around the world should take it a bit easier on a guy who has his feet on the ground in the heart of Italian supercar territory and has developed contacts and friends at many of those companies. Marco is a good guy - I'd stake my own reputation on defending his.

>8^)
ER
#38

Ferrari Enzo Replacement Design Finalized
The powers that be at Ferrari have finalized designs for the successor to the Enzo, which will make its debut by the end of the year. Although there have been a number of mules—we’ve managed to get our hands on spy photos of one Enzo-successor mule—undergoing testing for some time now, the super-dupercar’s final design was still in question.
As to the design decided on, we understand that traditional Ferrari collaborator Pininfarina had nothing to do with it. The result comes entirely from within the confines of Ferrari’s home in Maranello, led by renowned designer Flavio Manzoni. Could this be the beginning of the end of a long relationship with Pininfarina? We hope not, but we don’t run Maranello.
Think of the Millechili concept from 2010 and collector Jim Glickenhaus’s Enzo–based P4/5 and P4/5 Competizione and you get an idea of what to expect from the F70’s (what it’s being referred to internally) lines and shape. The new design of the all-carbon-fiber body and chassis mega-exotic is based on what is being called a “three arc” philosophy. That is, as seen in profile, the front arc is the tightest in diameter; the middle arc, with its greenhouse, is the largest; and the rear arc is somewhat larger than that in the front and extends rearward until it ends abruptly—a bit like the Pagani Zonda tail, if you will. This will place its two occupants within a forward-mounted, large glass cabin resting on carbon-fiber pillars, providing a nearly 360-degree view. We do know for sure that, like the Zonda, that abrupt rear fascia will be left open, or perhaps covered by just a screen.
Aerodynamics on the F70 is, of course, a rather large deal; the car will benefit from both active and passive body features. The centerpiece in active aero for the F70 is the large integrated-rear-wing. As to the abundant passive aero, designers have emphasized the three arcs as decisive forms, featuring precisely cut recessed-intakes and air-flow passages. The manner in which air is guided over and through the large and forward-mounted greenhouse is getting rave reviews inside Maranello; revolutionary is the word we’re hearing. Another clever aerodynamic detail is that the headlights and its surrounds are shaped in such a manner that they guide air past and through the normally obstructing front fascia.
The most important information on the new car—besides the all-carbon-fiber construction—is the estimated 920 hp from an all-new V-12 engine with “significant” cylinder capacity, and its hybrid scheme. Our informants tell us Ferrari very nearly decided on a turbocharged V-12, but then reverted back to the original plan of a mild-hybrid layout. The hybrid part of the scheme involves an aspect very similar to the KERS system used in Formula 1 to aid acceleration when needed. The commitment to such a system was ordered by technical guru Amedeo Felisa, principally because such an approach will render this Ferrari a surprisingly green supercar.
Weight-savings will play a large role in the expected efficiency gains. Whereas the Enzo weighed in at around 3300 pounds, the F70 is set to come in at around 2650 pounds—not far from the weight of the Enzo FXX. We’re keen to find out how much an FXX-ified F70 would weigh.
With the powertrain and now the design decided upon, we should start seeing fewer camouflaged mules and more camouflaged F70s. Oh, and as to the final name, we know that it will be neither Enzo nor F70.
Source: Car and Driver
Last edited by boy_wonder; Jun 9, 2012 at 05:29 PM.





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