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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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seems a bit ridiculous to price it at considerably more than SLR's are selling for.
 
Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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It's a nice car no doubt, but it's worth nowhere near $320,000. What is Mercedes smoking? This is the essentially the same car that came out in 2003. The same interior (except for the wheel, shifter, seats, and dvd nav) and the same rear end. The same slightly tuned engine (most SL65's with RENNtech or Kleeman tunes are running 740hp and 900+ ft/tq, so the 661hp here isn't very impressive at all). The interior is also identical to that of the normal AMG cars. It should be stripped down a bit more like the Gallardo Superleggera.

The wheels are hideous. The rear end looks awsome with the spoiler down, the rest is nice too, but not $320,000 nice. Where the hell are the ceramic brakes?

For $320,000 I'd get a SLR, DBS, or slightly used LP640.

IMO, SL65BS = Fail CLK63BS = fail in my opinion too. A dated body style with slightly more power and different suspension feel and they want $120k? Eh... MANY MANY more desirable cars at that price then the CLKBS.
 

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.PS
It's a nice car no doubt, but it's worth nowhere near $320,000. What is Mercedes smoking? This is the essentially the same car that came out in 2003. The same interior (except for the wheel, shifter, seats, and dvd nav) and the same rear end. The same slightly tuned engine (most SL65's with RENNtech or Kleeman tunes are running 740hp and 900+ ft/tq, so the 661hp here isn't very impressive at all). The interior is also identical to that of the normal AMG cars. It should be stripped down a bit more like the Gallardo Superleggera.

The wheels are hideous. The rear end looks awsome with the spoiler down, the rest is nice too, but not $320,000 nice. Where the hell are the ceramic brakes?

For $320,000 I'd get a SLR, DBS, or slightly used LP640.

IMO, SL65BS = Fail CLK63BS = fail in my opinion too. A dated body style with slightly more power and different suspension feel and they want $120k? Eh... MANY MANY more desirable cars at that price then the CLKBS.
At least we are all entitled to our opinions.....

I think your wires are crossed a bit.

Same as the 2003 car? The 2003 car was a SL55. At least say it is the same as the 2005 SL65. (You would still be dead wrong but at least some what closer to the model.)

Block may be the same for the engine but they have bigger turbos and many other tweaks as well for the track including additional coolers ect I would expect. I was cracking up at your Renntech 740 hp comments.... whatever. Easy to say hard to prove. I have never seen a Renntech or Kleemann SL65 put more than 550 RWHP down. Have you?

The same rear end? You need some glasses. The car is about a foot wider and all carbon fiber. Oh and carbon fenders, carbon roof, carbon hood, carbon trunk.

I think the wheels look fantastic, oh and they are functional as well (as in light I bet.)

Ceramic brakes? Who cares. If you are really going to track your car at all you really don't want them. If your not going to track it at all then you are wasting your money anyway.

I can tell a lot about you from the cars that you said you would buy instead.... A used SLR, a DBS or a used LP640. Don't get me wrong but I really don't think you are the target for this car. I doubt that the buyer of this car has just one exotic ride. I know that I don't just have one.

For the record, I do have a CLK Black series and I will tell you that it is one fantastic car. A car that you could drive every day if you wanted and still take on most GT3 drivers at a track day. Yes, I could take it in a GT3 RS or perhaps even in a GT3 but the CLK Black is far easier to drive quick and at the limits.

You may want to get a bit of seat time in the cars that you are spouting off about. It may help you better form your oninions.

Looking forward to driving the SL Black! I think it is the coolest thing to come out of Afflaterbach since the CLK DTM and the CLK GTR.

Way to go AMG!!!

Of course, this is just my .02.
 
Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LBMA5820

Block may be the same for the engine but they have bigger turbos and many other tweaks as well for the track including additional coolers ect I would expect. I was cracking up at your Renntech 740 hp comments.... whatever. Easy to say hard to prove. I have never seen a Renntech or Kleemann SL65 put more than 550 RWHP down. Have you?
You make some valid points, thanks for your post and clearing up some things. There is no 65 making 740, but there are a handful making 700 (far from 740) I know of one Kleemann SL65 making 600rwhp and two RENNTech 65's making 600RWHP. My own CL600 makes 555rwhp.
 
Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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You make some valid points, thanks for your post and clearing up some things. There is no 65 making 740, but there are a handful making 700 (far from 740) I know of one Kleemann SL65 making 600rwhp and two RENNTech 65's making 600RWHP. My own CL600 makes 555rwhp.
I have seen multiple SL65's run on the dyno including the two that I owned. My cars dyno'd 525 and 530 on a dynojet bone stock. From my experience, that puts driveline loss at around 13%.

Using 13%, your car would be around 640 HP and a 600 RWHP car would be at around 690 HP.

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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That's a merc?? Wow!
+1 That's what I was thinking too. I love the new model range of black series and this one will be the craziest of them all
 
Old Jul 12, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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AMAZING! Really makes BMW an afterthought. MB has done a phenomenal job coming out with some great rides the last few years.
 
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5 speed? Was that a typo DJ?
 
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Originally Posted by LBMA5820
I have seen multiple SL65's run on the dyno including the two that I owned. My cars dyno'd 525 and 530 on a dynojet bone stock. From my experience, that puts driveline loss at around 13%.

Using 13%, your car would be around 640 HP and a 600 RWHP car would be at around 690 HP.

Enjoy your toy in good health!
Thanks, Ive seen a bunch on the dyno myself drive train loss is NOT 13% for an automatic, try 18% which brings those 2 65's making about 730ish crank HP with the average modded 65 coming in around 700ish

Edit, I hate dyno numbers, the dragstrip trap speed is where its at for best comparison....two 65, im in awe.....
 

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Everything about that car is ridiculous.
 



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